So...

[vilehelm]

...where are we now?

I know that there is supposed to be a beta up at this point, i think.

Can we go ahead and spread it around to some folks?

Also can we at least give out the IP and port etc. so that we can use the MUSH/MUDs and what not to have a peak around?

As I have slightly more time on my hands these days if any final dillying around with the client needs to be done, just shoot it my way...thankee.

[farafiro]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, So have the proxy problem solved yet??

[20 Ton Squirrel]

The actionscript.org core is up and running smoothly. You can set your GMUD or MUSHclient to connect to:

www.actionscript.org:1138

[farafiro]

and how I can set those little puppies
(is it a real link??if yes, so it's broken)

[20 Ton Squirrel]

Go in the other posts here and download the GMUD client. Click on the little window button and select the "world" from the left-hand listbox. Edit the address and port to reflect the link above and click OK or save... can't remember. Then just click the connect button and yer in. Look in the past posts here in this forum section for details on how to connect/create/interact... it's all there.

[red penguin]

See y'all later!

20...I'd like to see if'n we can't test the whiteboard this week ??

[20 Ton Squirrel]

All the connectivity stuff was copied over to the ASengine, so connecting the client there shouldn't be a problem. I'm not sure if I'm going to have much time this week for coding. I'm WAY behind on processing here at work and people are starting to become suspicious... good thing I've got my ball-peen neuralizer handy.

*WHACK*
Boss, you think I'm doing a fine job and there's no question as to my value to the company...

Oh yeah....
*WHACK,WHACK, WHACK*
Boss, you think I deserve a raise.

[red penguin]

Word. Don't over abuse that hammer. Think "long term".

Heh. Good luck with those weasels.

[20 Ton Squirrel]

Long... term?

*nudges comatose boss with boot*

Ummm... heh... well, that's about as long-term as it gets! HA!

When I DO get back on track, which I'm starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel:

What format is the whiteboard sending/receiving? I recall you having size, color, alpha, x, and y for each "pixel" drawn. Anything else?

[red penguin]

Hmmmm...

I need to dig it out and check. I'll report back in a bit (asCHAT?). I'm hot on the trail of something. MX scrollbars.

By "long term" I was referring to the hammer itself. I fear that over using it will result in it's unfortunate confiscation!

Can't have that now, can we!

[red penguin]

Right...as it is now, I've got it to the point where it stores points in three arrays... 1. Points for "lineTo()" 2. Starting points to "moveTo()" and, 3. An index count to know when to start a new line. I haven't coded in the "colors" yet, but that should be no problem at all. Just another array...easy stuff...

So, how can this data be sent? Don't know how the engine handles it, but in the send function, it will concatenate the three and send them all at once. Perhaps delimiting it by something so we know how to read it back for the playback.

The first two arrays are 2D... (already taken that into account for the playback, I believe...if not...no worries...). It's the sending and how to format them. It can be formatted with a second delimiter and I have a prototype to delimit it but should the formatting be done here (before send) or there (after)?

All in all, I'd have to say about a half a day's work to get it going. Just give me your idea on how I should format it for the send..one array at a time? All in one she-bang?

Hope you've got that hammer handy..I think I hear the boss coming...

[20 Ton Squirrel]

I'm thinking it should all be sent at once. With all the extra data like color, size, and alpha that might get a bit hefty. If it does we can cut down on size somehow... to bad we can't incorporate compression somehow, like on MUDs. Anyway, that'll be a worry after we get this going...

The array should look like this going from the sender to the core:

wboard Red Penguin 1,1,100,388,293;1,1,100,388,298;....

<CMD USER SIZE,COLOR,APLHA,X,Y;SIZE,COLOR,ALPHA...>


Make sense?

[red penguin]

Yeah...it makes sense...

The way it's formatted: <CMD USER SIZE,COLOR,APLHA,X,Y;>
-indicates to me that it'll be a "real-time" draw and not a "save-the-data-then-send" draw. That how you see it?

If so, I need to rehash the process. Don't think it'll be a problem at all. Need to also invoke the function to initiate drawing as the data comes in client side and I haven't worked in the TARGET yet either...

[20 Ton Squirrel]

The problem might not necessarilly be from the bandwidth of pushing these arrays back and forth as much as getting Flash to chop up these massive strings into arrays. I did a project like this before that did basically the same thing, I had to send the data back to flash in chunks.

[red penguin]

Yeah...I see that...In "defense" of that argument I don't think that the arrays will be "too" large that it'll cause a problem. For example, in my drawing thingy, the "moveTo" points are stored in this format...str_lines=371,217|371,216|369,216|367,215 |366,215|364,214|362,212|359,211|357,210|354,209
...which is then handled via a prototype which uses two delimiters to split it up into an array. So...should we continue using this method or go to a real-time situation where it'll send a constant flow of data in chunks (like you said...<CMD USER SIZE,COLOR,APLHA,X,Y;>) and then just take that data and draw?

One way or the other. The "real-time" might be better in as far as handling the data...Whatchoo thinkin'?

[Billy T]

I can't get in

I've tried about 10 different clients with no joy

Has anyone been able to connect from a mac running os x?

Thanks

[red penguin]

Try Vilehelm...

Red Penguin shouts out across the ocean to Vile, "HEY! Looks like you've got another mac user!"

[Billy T]

help me Vile HELP ME :(

[vilehelm]

*swoops in wearing his cape and costume*

ok it's really a bedsheet and a skimask, I'm the HUMAN SPIDER DAMMIT!

Dang, haven't tried it with OS X. The one that I use is called Mac MUSH.

However, why doesn't red just send you the client, that'll connect?

*volleys the ball back crosscourt to Red and flies away*

[20 Ton Squirrel]

Billy, barring all else if you can find some form of Telnet application, that will work. The only problem with standard telneters is that the interface isn't exactly friendly to the environment. Just try and you'll see...

I'm sure there are clients out there, though. I'd suggest Vile's MacMUSH or the client.

[Billy T]

tried mac mush and about 10 others :(

might be a firewall thing but I can't see where exactly the problem would be...

[vilehelm]

have you tried the client yet?

SOMEBODY GET THIS MAN A CLIENT!

[Billy T]

yeah man that's what I'm saying...I tried the mac mush client and a heap of others without success

attached is my settings for "savitar"

used the same settings (and every different combination) in all the other apps as well

Thanks for your help

[Billy T]

sorry...here's the attachment

[vilehelm]

No, I mean the flash client, the AS.org client that we've been building, it's working right? I think Pink uses it. Shouldn't have any problems with platforms...

[Billy T]

oh right I see

where can I get it?

[pinkaboo]

it's working right? I think Pink uses it.

nah I don't use it - it sucks - MUSH is much better ;)
*pinK ducks and blocks*

*giggle* damn did I just say that? (only joking :) )

betchya it's a firewall thing

don't have a copy of the client here, besides I guess it would need to be reconfigured to the ASorg engine anyhow?

*pink turns to the penguin and screams "Red?!! back in your pool - send this bloke a kipper!"*

[20 Ton Squirrel]

DUDE! Billy, the port is 1138, not 1338.

Change it and it should work like a dream.

[pinkaboo]

*giggle*

damn that's my bad - just spotted a typo in my PM to you Billy!
That's my farmer's fingers for you!

(oops)

sorry! - can you get in now?

[20 Ton Squirrel]

HA! So now we can lampoon YOU instead of Billy, Pink? Muahahahaha! IT HAS BEGUN!

[pinkaboo]

eeeps!

*pinK scurries away to try to find that quote she saved where Vile said that you guys would forgive pinK anything and everything cos she's so darn cute* that you can't hold anything against her*

* ok, actually I added that bit about being cute myself, I'm not at all, but I can dream! The rest was said though..Vile!!! help?

[red penguin]

Billy...

I'll get a client to you "tout de suite"!!!

[DiDi]

Mystery port solved... Finaly... 1138 instead of 1338!!! Squirrel, maybe it would be good idea to edit your original post too. Some may not notice it in your status field.

This will be my first chat experience... Brrr... Feel kinda strange...

DD

[pinkaboo]

HEY!!! hang on a minute - there I am beating myself up and it's all your fault Squirrel! - there I am thinking I gave Billy a bad typo and yet what do I find when I check the posts?....

20 ton squirrel wrote:
The actionscript.org core is up and running smoothly. You can set your GMUD or MUSHclient to connect to:

www.actionscript.org:1338


__________________
Nyar!


And you let ME take the blame for this! - you swine!

xxpinK

[Billy T]

think I'm gonna cry :(

yes its working now :p

[pinkaboo]

so why aren't you here? I am, all on my little ownsome!

[DiDi]

Upsss...

DD

[20 Ton Squirrel]

*whistles innocently*

I dunno WHAT ya'll are talkin' aboot!!!

[Billy T]

zoom - can we see the client? ;)

[zoomfreddy]

Hi there everybody!!!...
ok, now where is the newest client Fla?, i have one, but just to see how to integrate the timezone feature(haven't made any advances yet) btw...i changed the address conection to use it, the Mac Telnet clients are crap!!!...

:cool:

[Jesse]

OK I got the client. Published it in MX. Hit yes when asked if I exist. Enterred my old username and pass... Connecting for ever. I haven't logged on since this was still hosted by 20T.. do I need to re-create an account?

[20 Ton Squirrel]

Hey Jesse, yes you will need to recreate. I'll take care of it for ye, though, and PM you your password which ye can change later.

[farafiro]

hey Red
can u do that for me too pls??

[xxlm]

hey red penguin, can I have a client for your chat project...
I would try it and help you (if I can, and if you're interesting...)
:)

[pinkaboo]

hey red penguin, <snip> if I can, and if you're interesting...)

sorry xxlm, You'd have thought that being a penguin and all that Red would be interesting and have exciting tales to tell, but sadly not. He's the most boring bird I've ever met, he's only interested in preening his feathers and catching his next meal really. Eating fish is his only hobby and he's not a good conversationalist at all.

sorry - couldn't resist!

*pinK slaps her own wrist, and tells herself off for being cheeky, xxlm is French after all! poor dear! ;)*

*ducks and runs*

[xxlm]

'scuse .... :rolleyes:

Should I say"if you're interrested".... what's the right sentence?
Sorry but as you said it i'm FRENCH so I CAN make some little mistake...

PS: Neither not telling you're not interresting red pinguin, OK? :D


Grrr .. Now I' m afraid writting on this forum... :p

[20 Ton Squirrel]

Don't worry about it, XXLM. We have people who speak English as their native language and they still are hard to understand... *coughcoughVILEHELMhackcough*

[pinkaboo]

hee hee

yeah, it's "if you're interested?"

Be very afraid on this forum! - but don't worry you can still make all the mistakes you want, I just couldn't possibly turn down the opportunity to be rude about Red Penguin! It's my calling! :D
He is just SO dull! ;)

Mais en l'intérêt des relations internationales j'ondule à vous de ma chaise en Manchester pluvieux.

see now you can laugh at me, bet it's nice and sunny where you are too! ;)

[vilehelm]

Originally posted by xxlm
Now I' m afraid writting on this forum... :p

Be afraid! VERY AFRAID!!!

MUAHAHAHAHHaghhh!! *trips over own evilness*.

[xxlm]

lol ;) ...

Don't worry about it, XXLM. We have people who speak English as their native language and they still are hard to understand... *coughcoughVILEHELMhackcough*

Agree with you 20 Ton Squirrel...
Sometimes I' taking more time to understand what people wants to say than giving them the answer... :p

[farafiro]

xxlm is French after all! poor dear! *

Heheheheeeeeeeeeeeee
No comment :rolleyes:

[xxlm]

Originally posted by farafiro


Heheheheeeeeeeeeeeee
No comment :rolleyes:

Ok, I'm french and I made the effort to WRITE IN ENGLISH...
ok you'll say that it's an english forum.... hummm :rolleyes:

[farafiro]

et je suis Egyptien et j'ecris en Englais aussi

[xxlm]

Originally posted by farafiro
et je suis Egyptien et j'ecris en Anglais aussi

;)
Yep, and I says another things... I prefer going on english forum than french one... In that case I make some progress in English... Learn Flash and English at the same times....:D My bedside book is a French/English dictionary...