Super Text Transition Class

[matthewjumpsoffbuildings]

Hey all, just thought I'd let peoples know - I've recently released a "Super Text Transition Class" for Flash 7+ on FlashDen - you simply pass a reference to any dynamic textfield, and it splits the text up by letter/word/line as you specify, then animates each segment in using any amount of movie clip properties (eg alpha, x, y, scale, rotation, even tint) - Its extremely powerful...

Its probably easier if you just have a look :)

Click Here to Check it out! (http://flashden.net/item/super-text-transition-class/11173?ref=matthewjumpsoffbuildings)

Click Here to get the ReadMe (http://www.neoterik.com.au/images/stuff/Readme.rtf)

[ASWC]

Good job! Are you sharing or selling?

[matthewjumpsoffbuildings]

Selling - should I not post this here?

[matthewjumpsoffbuildings]

Update 2.1.3 is coming soon - a new textOnComplete feature added (turns the animation back into selectable text once the animation is done) :)

[ASWC]

Cool but I think I can get the same kind of stuff for free. Did you check your market before creating that and try to sell it?

[asf8]

Cool but I think I can get the same kind of stuff for free. Did you check your market before creating that and try to sell it?

Post some links Lets compare. ;):)

Hey all, just thought I'd let peoples know - I've recently released a "Super Text Transition Class"

Looks good. Just curious what is the object of using a textfield to start and wanting to use a textfield when finished (selectable text)? I guess in certain cases it would matter, but in most cases probably not. Should be from XML in my opinion!

You could have had/still have global fame by releasing this on google code or somewhere as open source for the Flash Community :p

Honestly you probably would make more money in the long run than what you will make on FlashDen 8+61=$488 minus FlashDen's cut of it (blah). Look at Jack from Greensock (the tween engine your using) for example, I am sure since releasing TweenLite/TweenFilterLite/TweenMax the guy could probably choose to not sleep if he wanted to take on all the work/opportunity that is probably coming his way. I find this true for most opensource stuff, the recognition and exposure is generally the best thing. I could rattle off tons of people who benefitted from releasing stuff and then went on to prosper from it. (I am sure you can think of tons also ;-)

Anyway I also understand the need to make money but just wanted to point that out. ;)

Just make sure you understand:

Prices are set at the sole discretion of FlashDen and its staff. This is to promote stable and consistent pricing. If you feel that your file was unfairly priced (high or low), please contact support and state your reasons clearly and succinctly.

As a regular FlashDen Author, when you sell items through the site you earn 25% of every item sold. This amount accumulates in your Cash account until you withdraw it, either into Credits or into a PayPal account/cheque.

If you agree to sell exclusively through the FlashDen site, i.e. your items appear here and nowhere else, then the rate of payment rises from 25% to 35% and on up to a maximum of 50%.

Become an exclusive FlashDen Author means you agree that any Flash files, Video files, Audio files and Font files you sell through FlashDen will NOT be sold elsewhere - on competing sites or on your personal site. You may continue to sell these items in person or use them in other ways however you may NOT sell them in a venue that harms sales on FlashDen.

You must qualify to become an exclusive FlashDen Author. To do this you must have sold at least $500 worth of items. This can be comprised of any combination of items (20 x $25 items, 500 x $1 items etc).

Some of that is just pure crazyness (if you ask me). So you only get 25% of the sale? That is why they raised the price from $6 to $8 ;-) (They wanted an extra 25% from you.)

A.) I sure would NOT become an exclusive seller. (reasons above)
B.) Again you could make/gain more from open sourcing it and capitalizing on the exposure.

Just thoughts/ideas of course.

[ASWC]

I'm just joking around but I mean what I said about the target market. it's cool to create a class of whatever and try to sell it but you should first figure out if there's a market for it. Personnaly when I need text animation, I create the specific functionality and would not use a class with a bunch of method that I won't use and will just make my file bigger for nothing!

[matthewjumpsoffbuildings]

Looks good. Just curious what is the object of using a textfield to start and wanting to use a textfield when finished (selectable text)? I guess in certain cases it would matter, but in most cases probably not. Should be from XML in my opinion!

Whats XML got to do with it. If you want to use XML, just set up a text field and set its text from the XML, then run the textTransition. The reasons for using a textfield for the start point should be bleedingly obvious (for design/layout/presentation/font embedding/ease of use purposes) And the option to turn it back into a textfield at the end is great - it means users can select the text and copy/paste it etc...


You could have had/still have global fame by releasing this on google code or somewhere as open source for the Flash Community :p

Some of that is just pure crazyness (if you ask me). So you only get 25% of the sale? That is why they raised the price from $6 to $8 ;-) (They wanted an extra 25% from you.)
Actually I get 35% - still kinda crap, but better than 25%. Right now I'm happy distributing this file on FlashDen...

[asf8]

Whats XML got to do with it. If you want to use XML, just set up a text field and set its text from the XML, then run the textTransition. The reasons for using a textfield for the start point should be bleedingly obvious (for design/layout/presentation/font embedding/ease of use purposes) And the option to turn it back into a textfield at the end is great - it means users can select the text and copy/paste it etc...

Yeah I got all that, but no where did I see you mention XML. You might wish to express this ability and demonstrate by example however, becuase alot of poeple trolling FlashDen (Users looking to buy pre-made effects who dont want to make there own, or maybe can not) might not know this. It could be a selling point for you that some people dont realize. I mean now days external dynamic everything is the key ;-)

You know, make it "bleedingly obvious" for potential buyers. That was my point ;)

Actually I get 35% - still kinda crap, but better than 25%. Right now I'm happy distributing this file on FlashDen...

Yeah real crap (bleedingly obvious) at 35% of your 100% hard work, but ok then best wishes on your sales. (Beware of getting locked in however in case you ever wish to change your mind on how you want to handle things) Again no offense was meant by my previous post or this one. Was just something(s) to think about.

Its nice work and a nice result for sure, good job matthewjumpsoffbuildings.

PS: I hope you donated to GreenSock.

[ASWC]

Gosh ASF8 you are so bleedingly obvious.

[asf8]

Gosh ASF8 you are so bleedingly obvious.

Golly gee ASWC, was just tring to get my point across. Didn't mean no harm there.

[ASWC]

Golly gee ASWC, was just tring to get my point across. Didn't mean no harm there.
Come on I'm just bleedingly obviously kidding!;)

[asf8]

Come on I'm just bleedingly obviously kidding!

As was I ASWC ;)

[matthewjumpsoffbuildings]

Haha I had no idea everyone would have such fun with that phrase :P

Anyway, yes I will be donating to GreenSock, already spoken to him about it, and also sent him some ideas for TweenLite (a yoyo method I added...tho it needs work)

As far as XML goes, I dont see a point mentioning it since the user would have to set up the XML loading and textfield themselves...I dont want to build that feature in to the class

Thanks for the comments tho :)

PS - Version 2.1.3 Released (http://flashden.net/item/super-text-transition-class/11173?ref=matthewjumpsoffbuildings)

[asf8]

Anyway, yes I will be donating to GreenSock, already spoken to him about it, and also sent him some ideas for TweenLite (a yoyo method I added...tho it needs work)

Glad to hear it.

As far as XML goes, I dont see a point mentioning it since the user would have to set up the XML loading and textfield themselves...I dont want to build that feature in to the class

You obviously have missed my point I thought it was bleedingly obvious. I did not mean add an XML feature to the class itself.

I said:
Yeah I got all that, but no where did I see you mention XML. You might wish to express this ability and demonstrate by example however, becuase alot of poeple trolling FlashDen (Users looking to buy pre-made effects who dont want to make there own, or maybe can not) might not know this. It could be a selling point for you that some people dont realize. I mean now days external dynamic everything is the key ;-)

You know, make it "bleedingly obvious" for potential buyers. That was my point.

Maybe the majority FlashDen customers are Flash Developers that know everything? I was under the impression that alot of people that could buy your item might not realize they can use it with XML or even know how to do so. That was my suggestion, maybe its not bleedingly obvious. I mean troll any Flash forum and look at posts about using XML etc... I think it would be a good point to make. Ummm only trying to help your sales ;-)

[ASWC]

Look at Jack from Greensock (the tween engine your using) for example, I am sure since releasing TweenLite/TweenFilterLite/TweenMax the guy could probably choose to not sleep if he wanted to take on all the work/opportunity that is probably coming his way. I find this true for most opensource stuff, the recognition and exposure is generally the best thing. I could rattle off tons of people who benefitted from releasing stuff and then went on to prosper from it. (I am sure you can think of tons also ;-)


The class is cool and I whish you as much success as possible with it but I totaly agree with ASF8. Was selling it the best move (we all need money obviously)? In the case of TweenMax, which is used by thousands (or more people?) developer around the world, trying to sell it would have been the end of it since there's already quite a few free tween class like that around. Now the guy is known around the world for his work and I bet you that's gonna pay off if it's not already paying off. Obviously when you try to sell like you do, then there's gonna be a lot less people using it and your name will be a lot less known (depending on your sales of course). Allow me to give you one advice, in a few month if the sales did not reach what you expected, make it free to use.

[matthewjumpsoffbuildings]

To be honest, right now I dont see too many classes available that do what mine does - unless you have some links for me?

Like I said, I am happy selling this product on FlashDen. I think its a great product that will only get better as I develop it, and I'm confident people will want to buy it. I am busy working within my own company, I'm not out for fame or whatever, just hope people will buy my class and find use for it, and feed back to me with suggestions etc ;)

[matthewjumpsoffbuildings]

Hooray! This class just got featured (http://flashden.net/feature?ref=matthewjumpsoffbuildings) on FlashDen!

Unfortunately I havent had time to finalise the latest updates on the Super Text Transition Class
(http://flashden.net/item/super-text-transition-class/11173?ref=matthewjumpsoffbuildings) since late april, but there are some really cool new features coming soon :) Of course, its currently really cool already ;)

[evride]

sweet man, congrats. if i had 8 dollars i would buy it, sorry but i dont. im an unemployed flasher about to go to college.

[matthewjumpsoffbuildings]

Haha thanks man, thats cool :D

I really hope i can get some solid time working on this...wanna knock off the stuff on the todo list...

the reverse() option is seeming a bit more difficult with the current version, i may need to rewrite a fair chunk of the core...

plus i want to implement TweenFilterLite (http://blog.greensock.com/tweenfilterliteas2/)so you can pass filter params like blurFilter etc....

so i got my work cut out for me ;)

[pj-co]

http://www.greensock.com/terms_of_use.html

Did you get your software liscensed? I'm not a huge fan of greensock personally (due to his injection of religion into his work), but he writes fantastic code and his wishes deserve to be respected with regards to selling derivatives of his work.

[evride]

wheres the religion in his code?

and does this mean that if i make an application that uses TweenLite that people will pay a monthly fee to use I must get written permission to use his TweenLite class?

or is it just for people that are creating commercial classes the will use his code must get his permission?

[pj-co]

He talks about religion on the greensock blog, I'm not going to link to it but it's there if you do a search I'm sure you will find it. Nevertheless, perhaps I should clarify my statement above, I don't want to put the guy down. Basically, I disagree with his using of his AS blog's popularity to discuss his religion. While I don't judge his choice, or anyone's choice to follow or not follow religion, I feel it's an inappropriate place to discuss such things.

However, despite that I disagree with his choice to use his blog to discuss religion, I still have an insane amount of respect for the guy. TweenLite is truly one of, if not the best tween class out there.

Anyways, evdog, as for you specific software subscription service, I'm not sure if that falls under what he describes as being permitted or not. To be sure, I would say it can never hurt to drop him an email and just ask.

Conversely, in my humble opinion, I think the original poster's text animation classes are exactly the kind of thing that violates the greesock license. Of course I'm no lawyer, and I'm not going to report the guy but I did want to point it out.

[ASWC]

Yeah I read the license stuff and that's why I never used his classes for my contracts which actually I don't mind at all since I wrote my own now and even my own easing classes so I'm all set.

[matthewjumpsoffbuildings]

I've been in touch with Jack regarding licensing, and i must say, he was very friendly and not pushy at all.

As for his religion - its his blog, who cares what he posts? obviously its important to him...everyone does things like that (working things that they love into everything, even when it's not really related to the topic).

Analysing TweenLite has taught me so much. I may write my own Tween class, but for now i want to focus on making the Super Text Transition Class (http://flashden.net/item/super-text-transition-class/11173?ref=matthewjumpsoffbuildings) as awesome as possible ;)

[matthewjumpsoffbuildings]

I'm doing some massive rewrites - Aiming for this - reverse(), stepBackwards(), stepForwards(), multipoint tweens with bezier, letter randomiser, filters option, revert(), rebuild(), fixed letter layout, bugfixes

Text Layout is done (there is a tiny bug to sort out), but now left, right, centre and justify align work pixel perfect, as long as autokerning is off.

I cannot fix autokerning because flash has a bug, so for best results you will always need to ensure your textfields have autokerning turned off in the properties panel…

To read about this bug, you can check out this thread (http://kirupa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=306026) – post 5 also contains this demo of the bug (http://www.neoterik.com.au/images/stuff/Untitled-2.swf)

[matthewjumpsoffbuildings]

I think its worth just one quick bump here, because the TexTransition Flash Text Animation Package (http://www.textransition.com), the AS3 successor to the now offline "super text class" is available to purchase here (http://www.textransition.com)

[ASWC]

For the price you are selling I hope you give a good share back to greensock.

[asf8]

AS3 successor to the now offline "super text class"

AS2 Super Text Transition Class
http://flashden.net/item/super-text-transition-class/11173

Why did you take the AS2 version offline? Seems quite odd as I am sure you could still be gaining sales from it. Email me a copy, I will use it.

So you finally took the FlashDen comments to heart and went out on your own for sales/marketing. What made you change your mind finally?

But here it says your submitting it to Flashden also?
http://activeden.net/forums/message/recent_for_user/matthewjumpsoffbuildings?page=1

[matthewjumpsoffbuildings]

@ASWC - I have a corporate license of GreenSocks stuff ;)

@asf8 - the AS2 version went down for several reasons. I might put it back online at www.textransition.com for a reduced price, with limited support... we'll see.

Im probably gonna submit the new TexTransition Text Animation Packge (http://www.textranstition.com) to Flash/ActiveDen as a non exclusive author, but I would prefer to sell TexTransition through the TexTransition website (http://www.textranstition.com). The main reason Ive decided to go out on my own is I dont like giving 58% of the money earnt from my hard work to someone else ;)

[ASWC]

@ASWC - I have a corporate license of GreenSocks stuff ;) Perfect! Good luck with your class then. ;)