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I have seen more and more solutions given to posters via PM as in:
Check your PM for a solution
Now how is that useful? What do admin think about that? We all know that post are viewed a lot by people coming from search engine and looking for a solution to their problems so what would they think when they see that the solution was:
Check your PM for a solution
I have seen more and more solutions given to posters via PM as in: "Check your PM for a solution". Now how is that useful?
I agree.
The basic concept of the forum is a place to help/seek help/learn/share, this also includes as you say searching and finding solutions from previous posts by others. When the thread goes offline (via email/PM etc..) it then becomes rather useless to those seeking similar solutions to their questions. I understand in some cases PM's/Email's are valid, such as when something is confidential, client based (or of course PM/Email conversations that start offline dont need to come online), etc... but by and large most instances really are not when responding to posts in threads and I think this approach denies the forum of its intended purpose to its members and visitors really.
This forum is a great resource, mostly because the archive of information it provides along with its great members whom provide that information over time (past/present/future) in helping others.
atomic
03-10-2009, 01:12 AM
Add me to your ignore list... :p
I responded via PM
(although usually I would only PM for 'valid' reasons)
I would agree that solutions via PM's are pointless. The object is to share information with the public. Now, with that being said, we cant exact demand people to do things. We can offer our suggestions to those user that do that. These people are here helping of their own free will, now, if they were employees...that would be a different story.
atomic
03-11-2009, 04:23 PM
I would agree that solutions via PM's are pointless. The object is to share information with the public. Now, with that being said, we cant exact demand people to do things. We can offer our suggestions to those user that do that. These people are here helping of their own free will, now, if they were employees...that would be a different story.
Would you be mellowing? :o
If they work, there not pointless to the one user (which is part of that public...) that asked the question...
But anyways, this issue doesn't seem to bother Admin more than the signature issue has... :(
CyanBlue
03-11-2009, 04:34 PM
The point being that you probably are helping only one person when you can really help many more... I don't really undersand why you are doing that, but that is not really productive to my count... Is there any reason for you doing that???
I seriously don't think the signature issue is something that is high on their list... Can I suggest you using a macro or even manually copy & pasting in the mean time???
CyanBlue
03-11-2009, 04:54 PM
Please please please stop deleting stuff you have posted... That's not really helping the community... :(
atomic
03-11-2009, 05:08 PM
You're as good as me, if not even much more than me in most areas... So there's really nothing keeping you or any of the other experts in this thread, winning about this issue, from posting a public suggestion/solution, if you or they feel it would be appropriate and to the community's benefit...
I seriously don't think the signature issue is something that is high on their list...
I'll survive the signature issue whether they solve it or not... What pisses me off the most, is that in the last 10 days, Admin hasn't even bothered posting a oneliner, even if only to state the issue was on their list, and that they would in fact look into it...
Meanwhile Jesse has had time to proofread and approve articles... Guess that's higher on his priority list... Give me a break!
I guess that shows that one can be extremely useful in a forum but become in no time embarrassing for himself and the whole forum. Well, why don't you take a break Atomic and come back in a few weeks with a better spirit and mood. Maybe by the time your signature will be back.
atomic
03-11-2009, 05:24 PM
Best suggestion I've ever heard from you! Not quite what you were saying about me just recently! :p
Good idea! Asta la vista baby!
(ok guys I think he is gone for a while, you can turn back on the signatures now)
CyanBlue
03-11-2009, 05:41 PM
Sigh... :(
Ho he'll be back don't worry, he might even not take a break at all! :)
wow I am not sure I followed all that being only an occasional visitor, surfice to say I try to always share publicly where I can, and if something goes PM I often steer it back into forum by posting my reply, and its true that we offer our time free so really we help how and when, if people don't do that then obviously its a shame but atleast individuals are learning who in turn will often share with the public in the future.
Great this place has not gone the way of werehere all credit to mods and users, keeping it positive cheers ;j
Fact of the matter is this. Love him or hate him, Atomic is a contributor, and a big contributor at that. I dont agree with the PM thing, but like I said, we cant exactly force him to stop.
@atomic - Yea I've mollowed a little bit. Life has a funny way of doing that.
Please please please stop deleting stuff you have posted... That's not really helping the community... :(
Link removed.
^^^
"But my words like silent raindrops fell, and echoed in the wells of silence..."
Seems like CyanBlue's words fell like silent raindrops....
So Atomic are you creating a excel spreadsheet of all these posts that your helping via PM and deleting the links to and once you get your footer back going to replace the "link removed" and "Check your PM's for a solution" with the actual info so it may be a benefit to the community and not just confusing threads for others?
:confused:
.....not really helping the community... :(
LOL Parlez moi de moi y a que ca qui m'interesse! Ato LOVES that we talk about him in fact if he could sell his ego he would not need to show his paypal link anymore!
atomic
03-15-2009, 08:30 PM
^^^
Seems like CyanBlue's words fell like silent raindrops....
So Atomic are you creating a excel spreadsheet of all these posts that your helping via PM and deleting the links to and once you get your footer back going to replace the "link removed" and "Check your PM's for a solution" with the actual info so it may be a benefit to the community and not just confusing threads for others?
:confused:
Nope! What's been edited is gone forever!
The voice of this community, from what I gather, is presently limited to you 3 or so members...
So again, you have the following options...
1- Put me on your ignore list, not seeing my posts will most likely diminish your frustrations...
2- Complain to Admin about my behavior, and see if that brings any results...
3- Go out and walk the dogs o' something!
atomic
03-15-2009, 08:38 PM
Ironically, just got this link from a friend (a true one!), and you should maybe check it out...
http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=2539741
Might give you a sense of what this whole community should be about!
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Nope! What's been edited is gone forever! The voice of this community, from what I gather, is presently limited to you 3 or so members... So again, you have the following options... 1- Put me on your ignore list, not seeing my posts will most likely diminish your frustrations.
I do not think anyone wishes to ignore you or even be against you Atomic. I know that is not my intention to posting in the thread (please read my thoughts in my first post of this thread). To the contrary I think a lot of people are interested in what you have to say in the responses you provide in your posts and in the threads you respond to. But sadly since your trying to get back at the forum for losing your signature now those people whom enjoy reading your posts can not, which to me is rather silly.
Just wish things could get back to normal soon, for the benefit of the community. I trust something will get resolved and adults can act like adults and all this sillyness will end. By not having your signature its effects you, but what your doing in response effects thousands perhaps.
atomic
03-16-2009, 02:46 AM
Question of principle and respect...
As one of this site's important contributors, I will no longer contribute to it's public notoriety, thus contributing to the revenues taken in by Admin, but will continue helping individual members through any means I so desire to do so, period.
End of discussion.
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Question of principle and respect... As one of this site's important contributors, I will no longer contribute to it's public notoriety, thus contributing to the revenues taken in by Admin, but will continue helping individual members through any means I so desire to do so, period. End of discussion.
I understood the reason behind your actions, and your actions. But still feel its silly attitude.
kind of like .... Its my ball and I am going home (http://www.currychips.com/archives/2008/02/its_my_ball.html), fun fun.
As one of this site's important contributors
You'll make millions if you could sell your ego!
atomic
03-16-2009, 05:26 AM
Meanwhile I'm re-selling your mind blowing Dorset Playhouse photo gallery (is that the one you can remotely disable?), which they got rid of by the way...
Mind you it's not really a lost, their present simple .html gallery is so much better!
Hey, but now that you're working at Google's (or were you kicked out from there also?), you should soon be on your way to California! Down with Vermont, up with California!
LOL! Amazing that you look at their site more often than I do! I guess that makes me ... special to you! They actually still use the gallery but it's only for members now and it's also used on other sites related to them and I should mention that they are still very happy about it since they can setup a new gallery in about 5 minutes without using any xml or such which was the goal of this gallery. No protection for this gallery so you can go ahead and decompile it (which I know you did already) and start to lean from it (which I know you try too). And I'm still an happy part time Google worker thx for asking!:p
wvxvw
03-16-2009, 04:28 PM
Now I'm starting to think you're serious about signatures... So far I thought it must be a joke... :confused: (Please, take me out of this misery, tell it is a joke!..)
Have you ever tried putting google ads on your site? If you did, can you really call that revenue? That almost always will pay you as much as you need to pay for the hosting...
Forgive me, but this whole issue now sounds like Lord of the Flies, but real o.O
Now I'm starting to think you're serious about signatures... So far I thought it must be a joke... :confused: (Please, take me out of this misery, tell it is a joke!..)
Have you ever tried putting google ads on your site? If you did, can you really call that revenue? That almost always will pay you as much as you need to pay for the hosting...
Forgive me, but this whole issue now sounds like Lord of the Flies, but real o.O
I don't get that...:confused:
wvxvw
03-16-2009, 07:26 PM
Hm... OK, as far as I remember atomic's signature contained a banner inviting users to visit his forum. Thus by posting in this forum he'd potentially get more visitors at his forum as well. So that now, when all the signatures have diminished from this forum, this must be really upsetting him... and sure, this won't motivate you, or anyone to post in here if your goal was actually to get visitors to your site...
But what I'm saying is that Google AdSense, or whatever other affiliate program this forum uses isn't to blame for signature absence, since it may pay in fraction of a cent per click (this forum doesn't display adds with high feedback, so, I'd assume a click on the add here pays ~$5... maybe even less). Considering some more general statistics, you may have 1 click per 100-1000 views, forums are usually at the higher end, since they have more returning visitors, which won't be interested in clicking twice on the same ad... The views statistics for this forum are at the bottom of the front page, so, you may make calculations on your own...
So, my point was that last modifications made to the forum layout should be the reason to the signatures' absence, but I would never believe they have any financial background, and assuming such thing sounds silly to me up to the level I refuse to believe in it. :)
atomic
03-16-2009, 07:59 PM
This thread has nothing to do with the missing signature feature for some users, the new added extra banner ads between the first & second posts of every page of all threads (by the way if they don't generate worthwhile revenues, why bother adding them?), or the malfunctioning Quick Reply feature on IE since the new inline ads were added...
This thread (not mine, but ASWC's) is solely directed at harassing me, for providing solutions to users through PM's rather than publicly posting them in the threads themselves, while I wait for Admin to solve the signature, extra ads and Quick Reply button issues...
I don't have a site, never will and don't give a ****in' flying shit about advertising it, or getting revenues from advertising, if I did have one.
And here's my added signature...
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This thread (not mine, but ASWC's) is solely directed at harassing me
I'm sure you don't mean to but you are so funny you really make me laugh a lot! THX ATO!
wvxvw
03-16-2009, 09:06 PM
@atomic:
I really didn't mean to be offencive, sorry if I was. And, actually, what I was saying was said for your cause, not against :/
atomic
03-16-2009, 09:37 PM
I'm sure you don't mean to but you are so funny you really make me laugh a lot! THX ATO!
If I wanted to be a moron, it's one exactly as you are that I'd like to be!
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moron, don't give a ****in
Excuse me is there an admin here? Or is Atomic the only user allowed to use these words? Sounds like he's on his way to being banned for a third time ... and to be honest in my opinion the forums won't lose anything important with that.
atomic
03-16-2009, 10:44 PM
If I don't know how to code or never propose any valid solutions or valuable links in any of my public posts, and that I am in fact a public embarrassement to this community, as you like to call it (as if you ever had been part of it!) what's the point & purpose of this whole thread of your's... You should be happy I'm no longer publicly posting and reljoice, and not trying to flame me up, as you have since you've joined this community! :p
CyanBlue
03-16-2009, 10:44 PM
I believe everybody has casted their voice one way or another... and we all feel that this thread is going into the direction where none of us wanted it to be...
My 2 cents on this is that the site admins will make a call when it comes to the rule that they'd like to run this forum by...
Closing the thread... Let's get more productive... Shall we??? ;)
Closing one thread that points where it hurts is not gonna help the forums in any way CyanBlue. You and all admin apparently believe for some reasons that Atomic should be allowed to act and do whatever he wants as if the forums will die if he goes away. I do not believe so and furthermore do think that this megalomaniac should be kick out and that the forums will go on without any difference without him. It's obvious that you want the butter and the money for the butter as we say in my country but here you are all playing with the fire, careful to not burn yourselves.
Wow I took a weekend off and look at all the fun I missed..I know the thread is closed, but I just had to post!
CyanBlue
03-17-2009, 04:27 PM
That's not what I said, ASWC... I said that we all voiced what we thought should be right for the forum, and have site admins decide what they'd like to do...
Like I was saying earlier, the information should stay in the forum... That's what this place is for and that's where this forum is going... At least that's what I thought...
I thought that I closed the thread... Maybe I need to know how to properly do that... :( Once again, I am closing this thread... Let's hear what the site admins have to say about it...
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