Just for Kicks Challenge Concepts

[Jesse]

OK team, following the success of the first JFKC (http://www.actionscript.org/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=26086) we'd like to start another. Rather than me pick the topic this time I'd like to encourage everyone to post one or two of their best ideas for a JFKC here (read the linked thread above if you don't know what the JFKC is about) and then we can just pick one of these up each week (or fortnight) and run with it.

My suggestions are:
- Coolest FUI Component extension (like adding arrow-key support to the scrollpane).
- Ahh that's all I can think of on the spot!

Get posting!

[buggedcom]

i think there has to be an eye candy one, just goes without saying.

[pom]

Ditto!

And by the way Jesse, I don't want to brag or anything, but I think I'm not a complete newbie with Flash, but I have no freakin' idea about how to implement an extension to the components.

Just my 2 Eurocents.

pom :)

[Jesse]

Yeah true. I kinda assume everyone it a guru :) OK, but in terms of eye candy, anything more specifc or just general eye-candy?

[littleRichard]

eye candy is eye candy...anything goes IMO.

there was a contest on ultrashock about a year or so ago i thought was cool. basically everyone creates a program that looks & functions identically to one another and the highest framerate wins. there was also a 5k limit on the final swf.

[Jesse]

OK so let's say the next one is as follows:
- General eye candy
- 50 lines of code max (?... I don't make eye candy so I don't know how much code it takes)
- Code only, no items in the library (again, is this possible for eyecandy?)
- Must use pink :) *My quest for the use of pink continues*

If ppl can agree, or dispte the above claims, once we've reached a verdict I'll post the official starting point for the second JFKC.

Oh by the way, did you all receive your newsletter last night? The system says they went out as they should have.

[farafiro]

I didn't got any email from here for 3 days now
also:
Can anyone describe exactly what is eye Candy?? Is it just something to caught the eye??

[pom]

Eye-Candy is basically what we did with Bit, Fara :)
Talking about the ol' Bit, his last contest was thematic (about plants), and I must admit that it was very cool).

Concerning the number of lines, we've seen during the contest that it doesn't mean anything, as some people achieved Asteroids, Snake and 3D engines in 25 lines ( :eek: ). A very good compromise is the file size. On a French board, the limit was set to 500 bytes, which is really not much. I'd say 1 or 2 kB is more than enough.

pom :)

[xxlm]

Can U be more clear for the eye candy?
I don't get it...
Or in french pom ;)

[pom]

C'est juste quelque chose de beau (doux pour les yeux, littéralement), qui ne sert à rien à part à être sympa à regarder :)

[xxlm]

Thx pom to explain me waht eye candy is... ;)

Then I will put a photo of me and made it move around the scene. It should be ok no? lol :D

[Billy T]

I think a 'menu' competition could be good.

An easy to 're-use and expand' set of funky menus would be very handy

(is this more of a component comp idea or would it be suitable in 'Jesse's F**king Kickass Challenge'?)

[Jesse]

I like the idea billy but in under 25 (or even 50 lines) it's prolly not that easy to make such a great menu (go on Pix, I know you're sitting there thinking "Sure it is!").
It's a good one for a component competition but we're not planning another of those for a while.

[pixelwit]

Okay so it's true, that IS what I was thinking but... did you know I was also thinking this...

Since you seem pretty settled on the "25 lines and useful" concept I think you should keep away from the eye candy. It's been done. You started with one of the most boring Flash objects the TextField, why not just switch to a different slightly more exciting object and maintain all of the current rules.

I think the goal should be to take an object and make a prototype for it which will bennefit the majority of the Flash community. I also like the idea of taking code from a previous post and enhancing it.

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

[xxlm]

I'm totaly agree with pixelwit. :D

[Jesse]

See that was my goal originally witht he TextField thing and I think the submissiosn were all excellent and served the purpose well.

Care to suggest a new Object to base the 2nd one on?

[farafiro]

yep, I like PI idea and also was thinking of this as it's a non-prized idea so "Why not doing something for all the flashers to get benifited from it"
so, here is my suggestion with the smell of PIX's one
let's think of some Arrays (as I'm dumb with them), prototyping (and donno how to prototype as well)

[pom]

2 things:
1. Nothing visual could come from an array prototypes contest, and that's really too bad I think.
2. This is really overkilled. There are just so many array prototypes around the web that it would be hard to come with stuff that's not already on layer51... :(

How about the Color object? :cool: Not so well known, but you can do lots of things with it :)

[littleRichard]

my vote is definately for eye candy. not that i think the usefull code idea is bad it's just that eye candy is alot more fun and i think more people would be interested.

[buggedcom]

*unrelated*

Jesse is that your actual picture, on your avatar, because you look remarkably similar to one of the blokes out of "Scream". That bloke who survived the first one but died in "Scream2" don't know his name, just though i'd mention it though

[buggedcom]

*related*

if an eye candy thing maybe something that reuses a single image or say something along the lines of a couple of pre created mc's to use?

[Billy T]

we could go round in circles forever trying to decide on a topic

My suggestion

start a new forum called "just for kicks challenge"

every week or 2 start a new thread that is a new challenge (all posts on one challenge would go in the one thread)

if people aren't interested in that particular topic they can wait for the next one

naming the threads appropriately would make it really easy for people to go through and scan for what they are looking for...eg "JFKC - The Array"

bye bye

[xxlm]

Yeah good idea, but then who will give the contest idea?
A thread for it. Where people can post their whishes?

[Billy T]

ok so have a seperate thread in the same forum just for that

Jesse decides what the topic will be us peasants will just have to live with his decision

cheers

[xxlm]

:D lol ...

[farafiro]

Originally posted by pom
[BHow about the Color object? :cool: Not so well known, but you can do lots of things with it :) [/B] have u seen this
http://www.actionscript.org/forums/showthread.php3?s=&postid=122048#post122048


Billy, I like the idea but I think no need for a seperate forum for it
maybe to moin the Projectors and Tutorials and make one instead

[Jesse]

Originally posted by buggedcom
*unrelated*

Jesse is that your actual picture, on your avatar, because you look remarkably similar to one of the blokes out of "Scream". That bloke who survived the first one but died in "Scream2" don't know his name, just though i'd mention it though

Yeah that's me... I can't think of which guy you mean, it's been a while since I saw the Scream flicks. It's nota great shot of me but it's about the only one I have digitally :)

Billy - I like your idea about a separate forum for the challenges. What do people think? In fact, if we had a separate forum, anyone could start a challenge. I'ms eriously not fussed so long as the goal is met: to develop the community and extend Flash's capabilites.

[Jesse]

OK it's a Forum unto itself now...

[Billy T]

Anyone can start a challenge...I like that

as long as they stick to a standard subject title etc...

is it possible to have a sticky that stays at the top of that forum that exp[lains all the rules etc?

cheers

[Jesse]

http://www.actionscript.org/forums/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=28070
http://www.actionscript.org/forums/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=28071

[betaruce]

so...........after a long discussion....conclusion is????

[farafiro]

so, u suggest something beta

[McGiver]

how about this contest:
make the worst flash page with 500 lines or more

no; serious question: who decides about the winners?

[farafiro]

hey Mc
no winners in it, see the rules

[McGiver]

sorry, my fault!
I like the Idea with the eye-candy

[xxlm]

I know that there is no winner, but knowing what is the most liked code could be nice. No?

(?is it english?)

CU

[mpol777]

Well I just threw one out there. Let's see if if it flies.

[pom]

Fara >> That's the problem. There's always a clever fllow who's already coded what you're trying to code. Half of the time it's Pixelwit. The rest of the time it's Senocular... :rolleyes:


Eye-candy, anybody??

[farafiro]

I know that POM

for the eye-candy, why don't you start one??

[pom]

What about "Landscapes" for a theme??

[farafiro]

hmmmm, for a theme
ok, waiting for yours to start ...... modifing it ;)

[pom]

All right, how about "water"?

[magicwand]

water sound good.
we will play follow the leader and let pom start.
ok?

[pom]

Yay!! :D

[McGiver]

time to get BIGGER !
how about this theme:
artificial life

i think this is really interestin, but i do not know how to figure it out within the normal 25 lines!

so what about a big contest! about 50 or even 60 lines?
i think it takes time to make a 25 lines thing, and the time difference will not be that big! So why not 50 or 60 lines!
there you have space to try bigger things!
the fact that there are no prices to win and no judges, allows that smaller projects can take part in it too!
lets say: the smaller the better, but without a limit!

so let me know what you think about it:)

[McGiver]

time to get BIGGER !
how about this theme:
artificial life

i think this is really interestin, but i do not know how to figure it out within the normal 25 lines!

so what about a big contest! about 50 or even 60 lines?
i think it takes time to make a 25 lines thing, and the time difference will not be that big! So why not 50 or 60 lines!
there you have space to try bigger things!
the fact that there are no prices to win and no judges, allows that smaller projects can take part in it too!
lets say: the smaller the better, but without a limit!

so let me know what you think about it:)

[Jesse]

Go on then, create a new thread and get it happenning. You can of cours especify whatever rule syou want, the basics are just a guide.

[McGiver]

waited for something like: oh cool theme
or: not interesting

if i am the only one, interested in something like that, it would not make much sense! so i ask first!

[annexion]

I think it's an excellent idea. It would get people thinking unconventionally. I'm very interested in it.

[farafiro]

so yo 2
show us some production here ;)

[Billy T]

http://www.tableau.com.au/tutorials/chat/

say hi to crunchy

might be more suitable in an 'artificial stupidity' just for kicks challenge...

[McGiver]

just look at bit101's! he's got much of these experiments

[farafiro]

heheheee
see my posts in hi contests threads


this looks very cool Billy ;)

[McGiver]

cool one!

[pom]

McGiver >> How about: you provide a simple graphic, and a set of functionalities, and we go from there? :)

[pom]

Nice Bot, Billy. It doesn't have a lot of conversation though :D

[McGiver]

why do you think we need a graphic or a set of functionalities? :confused: :confused: :confused:

[pom]

I thought it might be better if we had a common base to work on, that's all. And also because it's probably difficult to draw the darn thing with Actionscript :|

[McGiver]

hmm, i think this will not be that difficult!
who says that Artificial life may not be a triangle
although, because there is noone judging it why not use something like that!

I've an Idea: you have much more experience with posting challenge concepts so: I allow you to set up the challenge :D :D :D

[pom]

Right, I have already set up the impressive amount of 1 challenge, I'm really experienced :D

You do it, man, it's your idea :cool:

[farafiro]

heheheeeeeee
that's enough POM, don't u see that he is trying to run away from his idea :p

[pom]

I'm satisfied, Fara, I made him post the darn thing, MUhAHAHahaaHAAAH!! :D

[McGiver]

look what you have done! I posted the thing and got te impressive number 0 Replies.

:D http://nobodyxxl58.port5.com/Smileys/machinegun.gif

I know what you intended! you wanted someone to create a contest that starts even slower than your eye-candy water
:eek: :eek: :eek:

[farafiro]

why don't u include the smiles here with the
[IMG]http://nobodyxxl58.port5.com/Smileys/rockets.gif

[McGiver]

i tried it, but did not work!
I do not know why.
I also tried to change it afterwards :confused: :confused:

[pom]

Don't you dare talking like that about the eye-candy challenge! :D

[irbobo]

Ok, Do these have to be straight actionscripting? Or could it be a mixture of like actionscript and php? or actionscript and embedded movie clips?

Like if I was like who could create the best instant messenger in flash off their own code or off of a modified entry?

Just some thoughts... hope I didn't confuse you guys.

[farafiro]

I think it should be 25 lines of pure Action script

[McGiver]

somehing I saw at the bit-101 forum
http://www.bit-101.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=829
It was about a contest for writing a connect 4 AI.
The contast ended in april :(

But I think it is a good idea to write a kind of battle ai and let it play against another one.

Anyone an Idea for a battle AI game?
The concept is, that both ai's get the same Information.
let's say in a ballgame:
every ai get's the following:
x,y,xspeed, yspeed of the ball
x,y,xspeed, yspeed of the ai player
x,y,xspeed, yspeed of the enermy
borders of the goals
, or something like that.

(the game would be like www.bit-101.com 's laboratory file of 17.10.02)

tell me what you think about it, and if you got an Idea for the game

[McGiver]

wow! that's what i call an immense feedback!
ok, if noone is intrested...