IM curiouse (PC of choice)

[tiger]

I kind of get the impression that alot of people doing web design and pohto editing prefur working with Mac's. Any truth to my wild theory? and if so what benifit do they have?

[splict]

Yes, there is a lot of truth to your wild 'theory.'
Short answer: because its cool :rolleyes:

Slightly less short: a lot of design software has centered on macs, they are somewhat of a standard with a lot of designers, their marketing/design is agreeable to designers (not a gray box), they are supposedly easier to use which is better for designers that are not *nessecarily* as computer savy, because people think its cool :p

-splict

[CyanBlue]

Um... I think that's because Mac has(used to have) one button for the mouse... :D

Of course, that's just a joke... :)

I think it goes more to how it has been... Most of the DTP softwares and publishing studios has been using Mac to do their job long time ago, and Mac does good job on that part... So, people don't want to move onto the new trends which is PC...

Doesn't that dound fairly accurate if that was written about 10 years ago??? :D

I think that's how it has been and it is how it is going to be... More like habit or similar??? :D

[tiger]

So basically there's no real advantage, other than "all the other kids are doing it"

[splict]

Well, that depends on who you talk to. For the most part, though, its personal preference, and compatibility with your surroundings - like CyanBlue said, a lot of these places/people have always been using them, so they probably always will. I'm also in agreement with what you said the other day, too, CyanBlue. I would be happy to have a brand new mac - but I want a new pc first!

[CyanBlue]

Well... Actually, I think splict and I should not have replied at all... We are not Mac persons... We are... We are.... Ghost Busters!!! :p

Wait for some Mac people answer the thread, tiger... :)

[tiger]

Lol will do, Ive never owned a MAC and was half thinking about getting one, since it's time for a new labtop, Really I don't need one for work, the only stuff i do on a computer at work is employ files. lol just more curiouse than anythng

[CyanBlue]

Speaking of a new Mac... I really want to get one Amiga machine... There were lots of "cool" programs that I used to use on Amiga when I first learned LightWave and Toaster... Good old days... :)

Of course, i DO need new PC... I am working on PII 300 and AMD 700 right now... :D When I get the new PC, I am one step closer to my new Mac... I think it's good one to have to test the platform compatibility issue at least... :)

[tiger]

Right now Im running a AMD 2400, and its great, but my lab top is a mess, Like im talking a plain old pentium lol, definatly time for an upgrade on that

[splict]

well, my desktop was an AMD 1GHz, but its dead, and my laptop is a 1.3 PIII but its battery is done, and the lcd is out so its hooked up to my desktop monitor! :p not much of a laptop anymore, I guess. And I'm years away from affording an upgrade :(

[gaza]

I have a PC which works fine for me. Mac is a little on the pricey side for me but you pay for what you get, they never seem to crash like PC’s and of course they look pretty dam cool.
I found using flash mx on a Mac made it crashed a couple of times, though no fault of mine.
On another note, CyanBlue I see you use to dabble in lightwave, are you still using it???

[Warrior]

I have a PC which works fine for me. Mac is a little on the pricey side for me but you pay for what you get, they never seem to crash like PC’s and of course they look pretty dam cool.

I disagree with that gaza. Mac's SUCKS and I hate them. They are just rubbish piece of computers. The mouse is too slow to move, you have to hold the mouse button down for 3 seconds to get a menu up, the window clog up the desktop and pile up onto of each other and when the Mac freezes, yes freezes, you have to turn it off because there is no restart button. I have a magazine that has a Apple Representative saying that their biggest mistake is not signing a deal with Intel because their processor is much more powerfull then the Mac's.

Oh yeah, check this out.
Apple (http://godsholylove.com/apple.zip)

[Stimpson]

I tried an mac once, and I can't say it agreed to me :rolleyes:.
Same as the other way around for people with only macs I guess. I think it's mainly just a habbit grown over time that creatives use macs as said, although the nice design of the systems is a good point, resulting in many design apps being specially developed for macs. Which atracts creative people to mac...etc :).

[mrfluffy]

Originally posted by Warrior
I disagree with that gaza. Mac's SUCKS and I hate them. They are just rubbish piece of computers. The mouse is too slow to move,
You can change the speed

Originally posted by Warrior
you have to hold the mouse button down for 3 seconds to get a menu up,
ctrl-mouse click brings up a menu, OS X has built in support for 2 button mice if you want one

Originally posted by Warrior
the window clog up the desktop and pile up onto of each other
never seen expose http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/expose/ and the mac's windowing system (seperate from the mnu bar) is so superior to Windows

Originally posted by Warrior
and when the Mac freezes, yes freezes, you have to turn it off because there is no restart button.
yes there is

Originally posted by Warrior
I have a magazine that has a Apple Representative saying that their biggest mistake is not signing a deal with Intel because their processor is much more powerfull then the Mac's.
when the mac was released moto's processors were faster.

and on the stability issue, my iBook hasnt crashed yet, the only app that's crashed at all is Flash MX (which goes down all the time, did MM just give up?)

[CyanBlue]

@gaza...

Do I still use LightWave??? Of course not... It's not because I don't like 3D, but because I don't have time for 3D though... :)
I've used Maya for a while after LightWave, and that's a good one as well...


@Warrior...

Whoa... That's nice video you've got there... Don't know who edited that one, but that's funny... :)


@splict...

Oops... Sorry to hear that... But I bet that crippled laptop still is faster than my PII 300... :D


@all...

I can't really say much on the Mac since the last time when I used Mac was 1.5 years ago when I was still at school... Most of the times, I used Mac to use AfterEffects to dub my final piece onto the video tape for the portfolio, and Toaster to make portfolio CD for PC/Mac... Well... I am sure there is another way to take care of the jobs that I have mentioned in PC, but the facilities at school happened to be Mac, so I used Mac... That's all the reason why I used Mac... I think the school has PC/Mac at 7:3 ratio at the time if I make a rough estimate... Well... I am sure that ration didn't change much since I've graduated because there still are reasons why they need to use Mac whether the school likes it or not...
I think that's one good example of why people use Mac over PC on certain procedures... Sometimes they do that because they want to do, and sometimes they are foced to do... Just my 2 cents... :)

[tiger]

Ok, Im going to take this in slightly diffrent direction, say I was planning on in the near future to experiment with programing languages such as C++. Is this a problem if I owned a MAC?

[Stimpson]

Not sure if it will cause any troubles on a mac, do know a pc would be the preferred choose for this kind of stuff :).

[CyanBlue]

No, you should not have any problem studying C++(or any other programming language unless it is based on the Windows specifics) on the Mac... :)

[tg]

i'm not sure, since i'm not a historian, but i think apple started kicking out color monitors first (before ibms did), so if you do graphic work your gonna need color right? also when the mac first came out the pc choice of os was dos... not too condusive to graphics. so the tradition started there.

i've also heard, but don't know if its true, that mac monitors have a greater depth of color, and show color just a touch bit more truely... which if thats the case, you gonna want to use that if you doing some artwork that will be run thru a 4 color press..

[Stimpson]

Now that's the best explanation so far tg, makes sense alright.

[Colin Campbell]

Tiger, Mac OS X appeals to some people, but doesn't work for others. Although warriors comments were kind of unfounded, as MrFluffy pointed out, it shows that some people just love windows. I think winblows is ok, but I definitly liked Mac OS X better. Basically, you need to do research on your own, but if you aren't having an problems with windows, stay with it, only change if you hate it.

[tg]

heh. just reread what i wrote... somewhere in that post, i lost a bunch or 'r's

[Stimpson]

hmmmm...well, better then losing your s :p.

[splict]

My macintosh will not crash, ever.
-The tobacco industry
Warrior, that has to be one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time :D Thanks for brightening up my morning.

While the mac does have support for two mouse buttons now, its rediculous things like that that aggravate me about macs. More mouse buttons is more productive IMHO - what about 3 buttons? I use maya and maya is very 3 button oriented. When Apple bought Shake they didn't sell a 3-button mouse but they sold software that needed one :p. I believe they do now, however, and if they don't, I'm sure they will soon.

Stability has always been a good point on the side of macs - so has plug and play - but, as much as I have, and still bash Windows 98, Windows XP is extremely stable for me and easy to use. I have the occassional problem with the OS, but so do my friends that have macs.

Apple has always been very innovative, and while I'm glad to see some pc manufacturers at least follow the trends now, I don't expect them to ever catch up to Apple. I do have fond memories- my first computer was an Apple ][. How many hours of my life I spent on that thing I will never know. :)

My point is, that while I do believe their used to be reasons why macs were better in certain ways and pcs were better in other ways, now its more of a habit/preference thing for people. They both still have their good and bad points. Personally, I find macs too user friendly for me. And who makes games for the mac anyways :p If I could afford four computers, though, I would love to have a mac.

All this discussion, and nobody's even mentioned Linux :mad:

[Colin Campbell]

the game Halo is out for Mac :rolleyes:

Thats basically how I feel splict... preference. I just hate it when people say Macs crash 100x more than Windows, mine hasn't crashed in over a year :) My new windows computer on the other hand... *slaps monitor*

[gaza]

The blue screen of death, classic Warrior. Is Mac owned by or in cahoots with the tobacco industry?? Here I was thinking Mac had the green mouse.

mrfluffy, with windows you have the disappearing toolbar and if you use alt tab it’ll give you a list of all the open app’s and the ability to jump from one to another. I still like osX on Mac with the scale effect on the app icons, the old distance from mouse trick.

I just went to see “The Corporation (http://thecorporation.tv/) ” a movie exposing the corporate world for who they are. IBM leased computers to Germany during WWII to keep track of how many people they killed. IBM blatantly knew what they were using them for. So now I ‘m a IBM hater.

G5 kicks some serious ass, I haven’t used one or seen one in action, but from what I hear it twice as fast as the pentium IV but it costs a couple of arms, a leg and a kidney.

All and all I’m happy with my PC, it does what a want most of the tiime any ways.