what's an acceptable size for a Flash file?

[Romulus]

I have a file which is going to be the only flash part of an HTML page and I was wondering what an acceptable size is to put it in the HTML page without a preloader?
Should I always put one in there to be safe or is there a line you can be under where you don't need one??

[farafiro]

60k

[tg]

whats the largest acceptable size you would allow on your site for an image? i would say keep the flash files as small as possible.... the 60k faffy suggests sounds pretty good to me.