Andy Kaufman alive? [Archive] - ActionScript.org Forums

pixelwit

05-21-2004, 02:51 PM

You have to use that dude Occam's razor and ask which of the following scenarios is easier to believe.

A guy who loves manipulating and interacting with people decides he can pull an ultimate prank by...

Withdrawing from everyone and everything he loves (including the public eye) and then reappearing 20 years later. A key aspect of this prank is that he has to actually "return" meaning he must be "identified" But so far he's proven quite elusive for a guy who wants to prove his existance.

OR

Upon learning of his imminent and inescapable death he collaborates with a friend (who is known to impersonate him) to be "resurrected" 20 years later so his "spirit" and comedy has a better chance at living forever. This prank has the additional bennefit of providing a little extra pocket change to whoever impersonates him.

I know which one I'd pick but since all things are possible, I guess only time will tell.

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

dzy2566

05-21-2004, 03:03 PM

I could see it going either way. Kaufman was a pretty slippery fellow. Even if the whole thing is merely speculation, it's still fun to observe. www.andykaufmanlives.com - fun stuff

farafiro

05-23-2004, 04:46 AM

huh
and who cares??
any one do??!!

pixelwit

05-23-2004, 11:33 AM

I find this topic interesting and so does Dzy2566. If you don't care about the topc discussed in a thread then perhaps you shouldn't post a comment.

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

annexion

05-23-2004, 06:06 PM

Consider my interest piqued.

farafiro

05-24-2004, 03:11 AM

why so??
as u find it 'interesting', I don't
and I think i have the right to say so, for future things

pixelwit

05-24-2004, 05:40 AM

It's interesting to me because a celebrity might have chosen to seek anonymity rather than fame and fortune and succeeded in a time when such accomplishments are relatively difficult and uncommon. It also carries a modest implication of victory over death. As someone from Egypt, I'd think you would be familiar with people being interested in such subjects; after all you live in a land where there are a bunch of really big pointy things dedicated to the spirit overcoming the limitations of the body. ;)

People are talking about it so obviously someone cares. When you ask if anyone cares about a topic while that topic is currently being discussed it seems as if you're attempting to belittle them for showing interest in such matters.

You are entitled to your opinion and the right to express it but what's the point? If we all went around pointing out every thread or post that didn't interest us, we'd all have a post counts as high as yours and the forums would be littered with posts which contribute little or nothing to the matters being discussed. Therefore I suggest that you (or anyone else) should not post a comment unless you care about the topic at hand. Sounds like common sense to me.

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

farafiro

05-24-2004, 06:00 AM

It's not like 'someone from Egypt', It's more like we care about someone who disappeared himself for sometime while letting the whole world thought he is dead (I donno the guy at all), while we see a dozens of people gets killed every day (in Iraq for example and from both side, USA & Iraq) for nothing
for this I have posted my post and I do repeat it again, who cares.

Thanks

pixelwit

05-24-2004, 06:36 AM

So if "someone from Egypt" who you were familiar with and appreciated (a friend perhaps) were to apparently come back from the dead, then you'd care? But since ~YOU~ "donno the guy at all" it shouldn't be important to anyone else?

Yes, thousands of people die every day but that isn't relevant to what this guy may or may not have done. When someone asks a Flash question I don't say, "Who cares about your trivial little Flash problem, thousands of people died today." It serves no purpose.

I care. Dzy2566 cares. And Annexion cares. Now that you know, you can stop asking.

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

McGiver

05-24-2004, 06:42 AM

...3...2...1...fight

the person that looses will disappear for 20 years
:D

farafiro

05-24-2004, 06:57 AM

heheheeeeeeeee
okey Mc
not so convinced, but I quit

Grifter

05-24-2004, 07:22 AM

Thank you dzy2566, i hadn't seen/heard about this in any news, and i'm also one of the people who finds it interesting.
cheers
Grifter

dzy2566

05-25-2004, 12:29 PM

Right on. Sorry about that guys, I didn't mean to start a mini-war. I just thought it was an interesting topic, real or fake. People who grew up with Andy and those of us who've only come to know him via Nick @ Nite and Man on the Moon seem to be equally intrigued by him and his antics. So whatever the reason for talking about him, I think it's clear that Andy Kaufman is something worth talking about. True, AS.org's focus is AS, but there are communication lines/friendships that have developed as a result and sometimes it's nice to talk about other stuff.

Besides, this topis is certainly no less interesting than "Happy Birthday to Goatboy 73" or "I love that song". Faffy, you've helped lots of us on here, myself included, and we appreciate it. We know you're here, we appreciate your contributions, we've all seen the post count, and we're not asking "where's Faffy?" when your 2 cents doesn't show up in a thread we've started. Don't get so worked up over such small stuff bro, we're all friends here :) Talking about some comedian doesn't mean we're forgetting about the other more important things going on in the world, but we do need a break from programming and politics every once in a while ;)

Regards,

Dzy2566 (Sean)

McGiver

05-25-2004, 12:39 PM

hey, don't say anything against our I-love-this-song-thread. It was and still is the biggest thread in this forum. :D

we've all seen the post count, and we're not asking "where's Faffy?" when your 2 cents doesn't show up in a thread we've started
...3...2...1...fight

farafiro

05-26-2004, 04:51 AM

Hi Dzy2566
first of all, I apologise if what I've said caused any harm to any one.
now, when I've posted this, I just wanted to post something funny, not as the word 'WHO CARES' really means, it's like you hear "some one saw an alian in here or ther", or "Elvis is alive in .....", etc......
this is something that should be funny and worth some fun comments for - at least for me
but I really got annoyed for pixelwit post, and as I've said in the last post, not convienced, but let life goes
I know that we should break the bored times each now and then - and here I do this all the time, but what I've said for the war is still something needs to have open-discussion for.
anyway,not gonna say one more word for thi xept
Sorry if you - or anyone - thinks that I didn'trepect him/her

dzy2566

05-26-2004, 09:55 AM

It's all good. I figured you didn't mean any harm by it. Still friends? :)

farafiro

05-26-2004, 10:00 AM

lol
just for the record:
here and in real life, I don't do/have/maybe did in the very young times/make any fights, enemies
if any, i do quit

stay cool
;)

pixelwit

05-26-2004, 01:01 PM

What exactly did I say that annoyed you so much? Please don't gloss over this point as I believe it may be the key to this whole disagreement.

I'm a peace loving hippie type freak by nature but something about your apology doesn't ring true.

You say your "Who cares" comment was just an attempt to have a little "fun". Sounds like quite a change from your previous statement, ...dozens of people gets killed every day (in Iraq for example and from both side, USA & Iraq) for nothing for this I have posted my post

Even after I tried explaining that your comment could easily be viewed as "belittling" to the people already discussing the topic you still kept asking "who cares". Was this an attempt at having fun or were you just being a jerk?

It's obvious that you "donno the guy at all" and were not interested in the topic being discussed. My advice to you and anyone else who is not interested in a discussion still stands, "perhaps you shouldn't post a comment". Posting an "I don't care" comment serves little to no purpose except to litter the forums and waste the time of people who do care. After all, I have to log in to read your inane post so I can continue receiving email notification if someone who does care takes the time to respond. How would you feel if I followed you around the forums and repeatedly responded to every one of your non-ActionScript related posts by saying, "I don't care, does anyone else"? Would you get tired of it? Would it serve any purpose other than annoying you?

Before you edited one of your posts it read It's not like 'someone from Egypt' or from the '3rd world' as I can feel from the words you posted...I don't know where you come up with some of your ideas. I'm quite far from an elitist and doubt I'd ever refer to anyone as a third-worlder. To me, people are good people and will be treated as such until they prove otherwise. If anyone else can see how my comments could be viewed as looking down on people from countries not as well off as my own, let me know so I can ensure it doesn't happen again.

The English language is very complex, it's not my duty to write everything so it can be understood by people with a limited comprehension of its finer points. It's your job as a reader to make sure you understand what people are saying rather than what you THINK they are saying before you get all bent out of shape. Conversely it's also your duty to write what you mean.

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

05-26-2004, 04:35 PM

I'm a peace loving hippie type freak by nature
-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

oh

my

god

pixelwit

05-26-2004, 09:02 PM

oh...
my...
god
Shocking ain't it? :D It's not exactly true though... I like peace and I'm a freak... but I also like taking showers every now and then.

No offense to any "dirty stinking hippies" is intended. ;)

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

farafiro

05-27-2004, 02:42 AM

okey
let's go step by step with your post Mr. loving hippie type freak (by nature):

First of all I don't try to "gloss over this point", I'm not that kind who when they are wrong, they don't admit with that
The post "Who care" in my first post followed by 'any one do??!!', even I saw some posts for the thread, so you or anyone- I think -can smell it's not that serious
but in the second one- which was a reply for yours -I meant it for
=>> if I've sit to myself thinking of this- even if I know the man - and heard this news (or roumor), I'd say really I don't care
=>> also, I didn't get what you mean by Originally Posted bypixelwit
As someone from Egypt, I'd think you would be familiar with people being interested in such subjects; after all you live in a land where there are a bunch of really big pointy things dedicated to the spirit overcoming the limitations of the body.don't know but felt it's like you are kidding with me here, maybe I didn't get it for my poor English (¹)
You link Flash questions with posts in the General Chat which is not logic for me (so I've said not conveinced), as u did in the last one for followingmy posts.
Here- I think -I'd post something funny, deadly,.... and anyone has the right to comment about it so I'd figure out who cares with such a news, what not to post in before, some people's thoughts and way of thinking.
So, I won't mind if you or anyone posted I don't care or go to hell for one of my dumb posts (which I think are a lot)
-------
for what I've deleted, I just read it wronginthe first place, I didn't see the period after the word 'death', and I've read it like:Originally Posted bypixelwit
It's interesting to me because a celebrity might have chosen to seek anonymity rather than fame and fortune and succeeded in a time when such accomplishments are relatively difficult and uncommon. It also carries a modest implication of victory over death as someone from Egypt[*quote]
not[quote]It also carries a modest implication of victory over death. As someone from Egypt, and I was wrong so I've deleted it
sorry for thinking like this

(¹)I had to say this, even after you've posted your declaration for this was what I've really felt

ALfred

pixelwit

05-27-2004, 06:11 AM

What exactly did I say that annoyed you so much? Please don't gloss over this point as I believe it may be the key to this whole disagreement.

First of all I don't try to "gloss over this point", I'm not that kind who when they are wrong, they don't admit with that.

And yet you still haven't pointed out what I said which "annoyed" you.

The post "Who care" in my first post followed by 'any one do??!!', even I saw some posts for the thread, so you or anyone- I think -can smell it's not that serious
No, I could not tell this was a "joke" nor could a few other people. I've read way too many of your posts to know that you understand the concept of emoticons and are quite adept at using them (often 3 or 4 in a row). Yet this ONE time when you're joking you don't use a single one. You also used 2 exclamation points which (generally speaking) are more commonly associated with anger rather than humor. I also tried to make it clear to you that your comment was more insulting than humorousPeople are talking about it so obviously someone cares. When you ask if anyone cares about a topic while that topic is currently being discussed it seems as if you're attempting to belittle them for showing interest in such matters.But that didn't stop you from saying the exact same thing again which leads me to believe your intention was more malicious than humorous. Then you followed up with your "people are dying in Iraq" comment which implied we should be discussing more important things or at the very least, things which matter... to you.

if I've sit to myself thinking of this- even if I know the man - and heard this news (or roumor), I'd say really I don't care
I'll try to draw a parallel to this which you can understand and find logical. What if every person who didn't know the answer to a question asked in the Flash forums were to respond by saying, "I don't have a clue what the answer is."? What purpose would it serve? Millions of people might not know the answer. Should every one of them respond to the thread? What if they did? Nothing would be gained but much would be lost. As a moderator you should be aware of the problems this would cause (bloated database, time wasted, emails sent...). Saying you don't care about a topic is equivalent to saying you don't know the answer to a Flash question. It does more harm than good, which is why most people use a little common sense and don't do it.

What I meant by... As someone from Egypt, I'd think you would be familiar with people being interested in such subjects; after all you live in a land where there are a bunch of really big pointy things dedicated to the spirit overcoming the limitations of the body....was that you should be well aware of the lengths people will go to overcome death. How many people worked on the pyramids? How long did it take? And all so a few people could appear to overcome death. Can you see some similarity? Millions of people are still interested in the pyramids. Andy Kaufman's feat wasn't nearly as grand but it should help you understand why people find similar topics interesting.

I'm having a really hard time understanding this...Here- I think -I'd post something funny, deadly,.... and anyone has the right to comment about it so I'd figure out who cares with such a news, what not to post in before, some people's thoughts and way of thinking....I think you're trying to say you wanted to see if others thought the post was interesting. If this was the case then why didn't you just watch the topic slide down and off the main page (which it probably would have done by now if it wasn't for your comments) or subscribe to the thread and see what other members were saying? Surely the majority of people who aren't interested in the thread won't bother reading it, therefore it should stand to reason that hardly anyone reading your comment will be UNinterested. Again, it seems pointless to ask who cares when nearly everyone reading the thread has already demonstrated that they care enough to read the thread in the first place.

Regarding your deleted "3rd world" comment; I'm glad you took the time to read what I really wrote rather than what you thought I wrote, but I can't help believing you're maintaining a bit of hostility/annoyance due to a misinterpretation on your part.

After all you've read and written I hope you'll give further consideration to my previous remark, If you don't care about the topic discussed in a thread then perhaps you shouldn't post a comment. It wasn't an order or a command, merely a suggestion (albeit one I feel strongly about). If nothing else comes from this, I believe you'll think twice before doing the same thing again in a different thread (or at least in a thread to which I'm subscribed).

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

farafiro

05-27-2004, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by farafiro
Here- I think -I'd post something funny, deadly,.... and anyone has the right to comment about it so I'd figure out who cares with such a news, what not to post in before, some people's thoughts and way of thinking.what I've meant by this is that I don't mind if you or anyone else add a comment to say anything to my post (i.e. like I did), as you do mind
Originally Posted by pixelwit
It wasn't an order or a command, merely a suggestion (albeit one I feel strongly about).
In fact,this is what I've felt and feel, and this is what made me annoyed
Originally Posted by pixelwit
...was that you should be well aware of the lengths people will go to overcome death. How many people worked on the pyramids? How long did it take? And all so a few people could appear to overcome death. Can you see some similarity? Millions of people are still interested in the pyramids. Andy Kaufman's feat wasn't nearly as grand but it should help you understand why people find similar topics interesting.these are all very old thoughts to us here
as u might know we are more 'religious people' (Muslims and Christians), so this is not the first thing to come to the mind when readinf such an Expression in here. And I know that this is different from what u think, but we are here are far away by +2000 yrs from these times, and we didn't see or hear, read about anyone came up from death in the time of Pharoah, just some thoughts and believes of this.
Originally Posted by pixelwit
I believe you'll think twice before doing the same thing again in a different thread (or at least in a thread to which I'm subscribed).nop, your believe is wrong, coz if so, this would be wrong and I become a lier
Originally Posted by farafiro
Just for the record:
here and in real life, I don't do/have/maybe did in the very young times/make any fights, enemies
if any, i do quitjust to extend it: I don't get upset from someone more than 24 hours (as my old brain do remember)

Is there any other question that I didn't answer??

P.S.
please try to ease your experssions a bit, I do need more time to get what u mean with some dectionary help
thanks

pixelwit

05-27-2004, 08:18 AM

What you meant and what you said are 2 completely different things.

So you got upset because I "suggested" (look that word up) that you should not post comments in threads which you have no interest?

I have explained multiple times (with a fair amount of logic) why doing this is counterproductive and yet you claim you wouldn't give it a second thought before doing it again. This leads me to believe you are too arrogant or foolish to be reasoned with. It may not surprise other forum members to hear that revelation but I actually thought there was hope for you.

You got upset because I referenced the pyramids rather than Jesus?

Who cares???
Anyone??!!

Gee that sure seems rude but hey...

I'm right.
If I admit I'm wrong...
It means I'm a liar.
I'm not a liar therefore I can't be wrong.

Weee... this is going to be fun.

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

farafiro

05-27-2004, 09:08 AM

ok
Look mate
if u r saying I am so, it's your right
but I didn't say what u r trying to mention here
I've said annoyed, not upset
and as my poor knowledge of english, there are difference between them

second, I didn't get upset for you didn't mention Jesus here also
I don't even care if u r athiest or a believer, I was trying to tell you what's our culture nowadays here
but seems that I shouldn't

and again, I'm not a liar, I don't say words that I don't believe in or make fool of others just for prooving I'm right

now u say u 'Suggested', and I didn't say that u 'ordered', but felt it
and I have a feeling that u wanted to look this way
but it's not my right to say it loud for just my inner feeling
and after, u seem like you felt that u r ordering or commanding, so u say It wasn't an order or a command, merely a suggestion (albeit one I feel strongly about).

ok, so u do believe in this, I don't care that u do or u don't, don't tell that other members won't get surprise with what do u have in your mindIt may not surprise other forum members to hear that revelation but I actually thought there was hope for you.

Thank you

Billy T

05-27-2004, 09:34 AM

um guys can I suggest a truce? conversation seems to be going round in circles a bit...

*Billy prepares for attacks from both sides (where's pinkaboo when you need her?)*

farafiro

05-27-2004, 09:44 AM

This leads me to believe you are too arrogant or foolish to be reasoned with. It may not surprise other forum members to hear that revelation but I actually thought there was hope for you.
-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com
Just one thing I've forgot to say about this comment:
why don't you make a poll for other forum members for this??
;)

dzy2566

05-27-2004, 10:06 AM

Synchronized Swimming.............................

That's a little trick a friend and I used to use to interrupt someone on a rant. If you ever want someone to lose their train of though, say those words, but say them very contemplatively, with some seriousness in your voice. Repeat if asked "what?". Though I don't think it'll work in an online forum, but it is a nice way to throw someone out of a tirade. :)

vilehelm

05-27-2004, 10:15 AM

I was skeptical at first but then I found the Incredible Hulk's Diary as well, I know for certain he's alive and kicking so I'm a believer in AK now.

Hail to the King Baby!

http://incrediblehulk.blogspot.com/

Also, we all know Faffy's posting is beyond his control...I think he gets a peanut every time he clicks.

pixelwit

05-27-2004, 11:13 AM

To BillyT and Vilehelm, please don't sidetrack this thread as I think we're finally on the same level.

For what you have said not is to be correct but without having club we cannot be found with a good fish-skunk. I like to be friends can put to be been munchkin laps between total disregard for humanity's sake this is a pizza cutter if I ever saw one. We may have once been agree but to focus without a glass is to lose the whole bag of potatoeees (sloth like if ever there was one). I found a shred of concept or idea to be feared for make to be lost when first placed miss take of time balloons. Spaghetti spaghetti spaghetti I say. And I'm not just saying that. If you were having been hot sandwich then yay we can move to the subordinate progress maker with little to no spoons. It's that simple. If I was a kenighit I would be black like the day shining off schoolbussssess bound to midgets heading west without regard to your feelings. If this is too succinct then I wouldn't flog the dog; so to speak. I'd much rather trade simple food fries without the French if you don't mind. Be off with her head and hold the onion ringdings because it's time to adjustable wrench. Ask what not who can do you instead find bigger futons with more room so we can both afford umbrellas with cheese and the wheel of life. Follow me? I think you be with much holding not love but candlestick and kittens. Dogs aren't like that. I skinny found a foot with a neck and tie but never was been for houses on the head. Think what you may but oxfords aren't just shoes, they have 4 legs 4 hearts and totally foreign affairs. Believe me when I tell you this is. Spank the child, spoil the broth, and there won't be any time to make whistles, that's how things work around here. Everyone needs someone to be unless of course it's Tuesday night when I must rest my ankles from excessive singing. I'm sure you know what that's like. We've all been here without a ride to the mustard shop and who can blame Tim he also didn't not be even know how to have shortcut. Can you imagine it? Well If you can bake a pie I can eat a falcon meant to be shoveling mean steamrollers. But more to the point is lost forever around Kentucky. Therefore in conclusion a band-aid does not fix an axe wound to the nipple. Think about that for a long second if you must but don't trade a horse for the gold of Minerva. It's silly. Pointless. And just about completely belly ache. Don't deny it if you can, track left then scream, "I am not four score and anything less than formica!" Seriously. Things can only be spigot if you don't have a nine-bucket and even then it's tough. I like the way she works it but not in SCUBA gear because I am better to for have lost nothing but gained a friendly reminder of Hiroshima. Straight up dawg, tis the season of regret without remorse or disco balls if ever there was one. I know what I'm saying when I mean that. If I can't have my parsnips and eat them too, then it must be time to move the furniture because regular handcarts don't smell like that. Without a doubt. Am I making myself clear? Can you hear me later? Simply put down the snorkel creatures and step away from the microphone. The voice of entrapment within makes the milk-toast that doesn't eat betray the sounds of silence later than you might think. I believe the facts speak for a pantload of trust without pockets of jelly or stitches of sharks and if ever there was one now is the time. Delicious! Five is too many, six is not enough and anything more or less will only serve to sound like a babies cry in the closet. This is my battle cry to all mockers of sock. One for all and no soup for you. It's not my doing but the way of natures choice to crawl through the muck just to reach an impasse so large only you can see it. Speak your mind not your truck. This is our last fern. And it is a good fern. Some might even say the best. Others are hard of hearing. Walk with me. Talk with me. But don't tell me it's raining while kissing a dodger. It wouldn't be prudent or he'd bonkers be had.

Thank you for your supporters,

This translation to Farafiro-ese brought to you by the number 96 and the letter 2. Sponsored by BabelFiro.

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

pinkaboo

05-27-2004, 11:19 AM

"where's pinkaboo when you need her?"

Right here mate, reading with great amusement and rolling around the floor in fits of giggles. Sorry, can't stand up.

05-27-2004, 11:22 AM

we all know Faffy's posting is beyond his control...I think he gets a peanut every time he clicks.

*snicker*

hey, pink congrats on the permit/paperwork etc. too bad it was such a hassle to set up.

CyanBlue

05-27-2004, 11:26 AM

Yeah... I think we are trying to go over the border... Can we stop here??? Or not??? :(

But, I am glad that I could see Mr. pinkaboo and Ms. pinkaboo through this thread... How's everything going, guys??? :) :D

Billy T

05-27-2004, 11:28 AM

hey pinky ;) ..long time no see... hope you and Mr Vile are enjoying life together.

pixelwit - I don't want to take sides here man but poking fun at peoples English when it obviously isn't their first language ain't cool

Billy T

05-27-2004, 11:31 AM

Can we stop here???

Yep I'll second that

Billy T

05-27-2004, 09:19 PM

BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND<<-->>THIS THREAD

*Billy takes a seat*

dzy2566

05-28-2004, 07:36 AM

While somewhat depressing, I have to admit that this thread has been entertaining me the past few days. I bet Faffy IS Andy Kaufman, which would explain this whole mess. :)

McGiver

05-28-2004, 08:30 AM

Come on people!
I can't believe this theme could ever be reason for a conflict!
If anyone fights about this theme again, I will hit him (or her I don't really care about that) with an empty plastic bottle!
(although I have to admit this thread got more entertaining than I expected)

dzy2566

05-28-2004, 08:52 AM

I agree with McGiver, though somehow I don't think an empty plastic bottle is very threatening. How about a rubber ducky, no that's no good either.........:)

pixelwit

05-28-2004, 03:38 PM

In regards to this "conflict"...

There is only one main point of contention and that is this one simple concept, "If you are not interested in a thread and you have nothing to contribute then you probably should not be posting in that thread." If there is anyone here other than Farafiro who disagrees with this concept please take the time to say so and if you have a little extra time I'd appreciate it if you could explain why. I will not berate you. I will not mock you. And (most likely), I will not accuse you of speaking nonsense.

I'd also like to hear from anyone who agrees with me. Just a quick, "Yes" will suffice, but if you'd like to elaborate I won't try to stop you.

That is all for now. Thank you.

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

05-28-2004, 04:40 PM

"If you are not interested in a thread and you have nothing to contribute then you probably should not be posting in that thread."
-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

well, i see it just a bit differently, but pretty much the same way.... i would say:
'If you are not interested in a thread and you have nothing to contribute, then why bother posting in that thread"

unless of course you just want to see how many folks you want to get riled up.

Billy T

05-28-2004, 08:22 PM

"If you are not interested in a thread and you have nothing to contribute then you probably should not be posting in that thread."

yep I think everyone - including farafiro - would agree with that. tg's final point is also common but I don't 'think' it was the case in this thread.

05-29-2004, 12:47 AM

'think' it was the case in this thread.
i agree....

but it sure can be entertaining when it happens.

pixelwit

05-29-2004, 02:54 AM

I'd like to believe this:
yep I think everyone - including farafiro - would agree with that. tg's final point is also common but I don't 'think' it was the case in this thread.

But after I wrote this:
After all you've read and written I hope you'll give further consideration to my previous remark, "If you don't care about the topic discussed in a thread then perhaps you shouldn't post a comment." ... "If nothing else comes from this, I believe you'll think twice before doing the same thing again in a different thread"

Farafiro said this:
nop, your believe is wrong, coz if so, this would be wrong and I become a lier

Which leads me to believe he still disagrees with my suggestion. But then again maybe something's getting lost in the translation.

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

Grifter

05-29-2004, 09:22 AM

well, i agree with what you say about being interested in a thread - if you don't have an interest then there's not much point saying you don't care. However, if you disagree with the purpose of a thread because there's a good reason it shouldn't exist, then i think you should be able to say so. So, here, there wasn't really any point saying "who cares?" when at least two people voiced an interest in the subject.

farafiro

05-30-2004, 05:45 AM

Just to make things clear and to end this discussion here:

In your post# 46 you are trying to lead the readers to feel that I still disagree for what's been written by posting an irrelevant parts of my old posts even though I've posted this in the post# 17 Originally Posted by farafiro
Hi Dzy2566
first of all, I apologies if what I've said caused any harm to any one.
now, when I've posted this, I just wanted to post something funny, not as the word 'WHO CARES' really means, it's like you hear "some one saw an alien in here or there", or "Elvis is alive in .....", etc......
this is something that should be funny and worth some fun comments for - at least for me. but I really got annoyed for pixelwit post, and as I've said in the last post, not convinced, but let life goes
I know that we should break the bored times each now and then - and here I do this all the time, but what I've said for the war is still something needs to have open-discussion for.
anyway, not gonna say one more word for this xept
Sorry if you - or anyone - thinks that I didn't respect him/her You still say that I don't respect members here for this Originally Posted by Pixelwit
I'd like to believe this:
:
Originally Posted by Billy T
yep I think everyone - including farafiro - would agree with that. tg's final point is also common but I don't 'think' it was the case in this thread.
But after I wrote this:
Originally Posted by pixelwit
After all you've read and written I hope you'll give further consideration to my previous remark, "If you don't care about the topic discussed in a thread then perhaps you shouldn't post a comment." ... "If nothing else comes from this, I believe you'll think twice before doing the same thing again in a different thread"
Farafiro said this:
Originally Posted by farafiro
nop, your believe is wrong, coz if so, this would be wrong and I become a liar
Which leads me to believe he still disagrees with my suggestion. But then again maybe something's getting lost in the translation.
And the part you have taken here was posted after my post#17, which was for dzy2566 and I've saidlol
just for the record:
here and in real life, I don't do/have/maybe did in the very young times/make any fights, enemies
if any, i do quit

stay cool
;)
and was posted as a reaction for your post in post# 24
Originally Posted by pixelwit
I believe you'll think twice before doing the same thing again in a different thread (or at least in a thread to which I'm subscribed).
You didn't answer or comment my asks in the Post# 27
If you go and read this thread from the start, you'd find out that I didn't name or insult you, but you keep doing this all the time. Let me remind you with some of what you have said
Post# 26: "This leads me to believe you are too arrogant or foolish to be reasoned with."
Post# 32: "……. I think we're finally on the same level" and this made me smile when comparing with this part of Post#20 " ….. I'm quite far from an elitist and doubt I'd ever refer to anyone as a third-worlder. To me, people are good people and will be treated as such until they prove otherwise. If anyone else can see how my comments could be viewed as looking down on people from countries not as well off as my own, let me know so I can ensure it doesn't happen again"
and in Post# 24, last line " I believe you'll think twice before doing the same thing again in a different thread (or at least in a thread to which I'm subscribed)."
Same previous post-#23-you tried to make fun of my English language, even I've made a comment specially for you for this point (see last line in post# 25)
Also, as the way I've started this post, you always try to make my posts to look in different way than what it's really posted for :
Post# 25, 3rd paragraph, and your comment ' You got upset because I referenced the pyramids rather than Jesus?'
Post# 17: I've answered dzy2566 and cleared the whole thing up with an apology to all the subscribers of this thread but then you grabbed a line from my post and started over again Post#18, even this comment wasn't for you
And there are more ……

Post# 24: you have posted " It wasn't an order or a command, merely a suggestion (albeit one I feel strongly about)"

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I think with this post I've made up myself clear, if not and you find anything needs more explanation, tell me, else I'm out of here

P.S.
How is my english in this post??

McGiver

05-30-2004, 06:48 AM

errr... would you madcaps now please do me a favour and forget about it or I will bury you alive under a pile of little paper balls I'll throw on you.

@ Billy T: since this hasn't any connection with the topic anymore:
CLOSED
(if you want to keep on fighting please use the little feature called "Private Message" )

pixelwit

05-30-2004, 06:53 AM

I can address every one of your points if you wish, but in an attempt at brevity I'll ask you this question one more time. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement, "If you don't care about the topic discussed in a thread then perhaps you shouldn't post a comment"?

Notice the word "perhaps". Please be sure you know what it means. It's the same as "maybe". It is also what makes my statement a suggestion rather than a command. The phrase, "Perhaps you should turn left at the intersection" does not mean that you MUST or HAVE to turn left. It's a suggestion. You may choose whatever direction you wish, right, left, or straight.

Please also note this is not just MY viewpoint but is the general consensus of most forum members. As I, TG, and BillyT have also mentioned, choosing to disregard my suggestion only ends up causing trouble.

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

pixelwit

05-30-2004, 06:57 AM

Oops, posted before getting a chance to read McGiver's post. Oh well, too late.

I'll see your little balls of paper (that just plain sounds wrong) and raise you a tinfoil wad and a dust bunny. Fear the dust bunny, for it is "ooky" (or "ucky" depending on your pronunciation).

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

McGiver

05-30-2004, 07:02 AM

fear my paper balls! they are already on their way.
I guess they will hit you in about 6 hours (yes they are very fast) :cool:

pixelwit

05-30-2004, 07:17 AM

I have wrapped my dust bunny in the wad of tinfoil and it's currently burrowing towards you through the Earth's molten core. You have roughly 2 hours to call off your paper ball barage before the dust bunny is sure to be feasting on your innards. The choice is yours. Choose wisely.

Please don't sidetrack Farafiro's and my other sidetrack. :D Also rather than closing this thread, a better option might be to split it.

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

McGiver

05-30-2004, 07:36 AM

an ADBITMWCW* is on its way to intercept your bunny...

Do you really think anyone here will ever return to the original topic? :D
so I guess closing will be fine.

(*: Anti-dust-bunny-in-tinfoil-missile-with-carrot-warhead)

farafiro

05-30-2004, 07:43 AM

Notice the word "perhaps". Please be sure you know what it means. -PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com
huh??
wait a minute, I will look up the Dictionary and come back in a while.
;)

I can address every one of your points if you wish, but in an attempt at brevity I'll ask you this question one more time. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement, "If you don't care about the topic discussed in a thread then perhaps you shouldn't post a comment"?
http://www.pixelwit.comdidn't I say this yet?? or you want a straight answer
if so, here it's load and clear
I do very agree

but I still need some declaration from you

pixelwit

05-30-2004, 07:47 AM

(*: Anti-dust-bunny-in-tinfoil-missile-with-carrot-warhead)

No duh. As if I don't know what an ADBITMWCW is. But I'm afraid it will be useless. My dust bunny is wrapped in TINFOIL. Nothing can penetrate tinfoil.

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

pixelwit

05-30-2004, 07:51 AM

No, you have not said it yet and every time I tried to show you why you should agree, you disagreed.

What sort of "declaration" are you looking for?

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

farafiro

05-30-2004, 07:54 AM

go on through my last post and I think it says all, if not
just drop it and give no feed back

McGiver

05-30-2004, 08:18 AM

It has a carrot in it...

btw...we already had enough feed back in this thread to feed the whole third world!

farafiro

05-30-2004, 08:22 AM

btw...we already had enough feed back in this thread to feed the whole third world!hummmmmmmmmm

pixelwit

05-30-2004, 10:15 AM

Okay, here we go. Try to listen carefully.

Why I disregarded your apology:

When you "apologized" you said you were sorry but only after saying "I really got annoyed for pixelwit post". That's like me saying "I'm sorry you're a jerk". It may be phrased as an apology but it's still barbed. Then you say you're "not convinced" that you did anything wrong but you apologize anyway. That's what's known as a "false" apology.

I never said you "don't respect members here".

I said I believed you would post a "Who cares" comment again without giving it a second thought. Because after I said, "If nothing else comes from this, I believe you'll think twice before doing the same thing again in a different thread" and you proved me right by saying, "nop, your believe is wrong, coz if so, this would be wrong and I become a liar"

I didn't see a single question in post # 27

Therefore it is very difficult for me to answer any questions you have never asked.

arrogant or foolish:

I used every bit of logic and reason I could think of to try to get you to agree that you should not post a comment in threads you don't care about. You fought and disagreed with me every step of the way BUT NOW you claim to agree with me very much. That WAS "foolish".

On the same level:

We were on the same level. We were both speaking in words neither of us could understand. This is not because you're from Egypt or a "third world" (your words, not mine) it's because you have such a poor grasp of the English language that the things you say often make little or no sense whatsoever. This sentence for example, "Here- I think -I'd post something funny, deadly,.... and anyone has the right to comment about it so I'd figure out who cares with such a news, what not to post in before, some people's thoughts and way of thinking." It may make sense to you but to anyone else who speaks English, it's meaning is... "jumbled" to say the least. If you disagree and think you're English is without error then I think you need to reconsider.

With most people this wouldn't even be an issue but you are different. You "think" you are communicating effectively but you're not. And when given the advice that what you're saying could be seen as "belittling" or offensive you don't care to listen or learn. You just keep doing the same thing (asking who cares) because you mistakenly believe I somehow offended you.

please try to ease your expressions a bit, I do need more time to get what u mean with some dectionary help thanks

I don't know if this is meant as a joke or not. I don't think I'm using any odd or peculiar "expressions" but I do think you really should be reading the forums with a dictionary in your hand. It might help cut down on the amount of misinterpretations.

make my posts to look in different way than what it's really posted for

I only try to make sense of what you write. If you think I'm "twisting" your words then try to speak more clearly so there is no doubt as to what you mean. I've used as many direct quotes from you as possible in an attempt to limit any chance of misinterpretation. If you need help getting an idea across then ask someone for advice, but don't get mad at me or anyone else for not being able to understand you.

You got upset because I referenced the pyramids rather than Jesus?

It sure seemed like that's what you were saying. I mentioned the Pharos and how they tried to overcome death. You responded that you were more advanced than that now because most Egyptians were either Christians or Muslims. I'm well aware of that. If I said Andy Kaufman was trying to come back from the dead like Jesus then you wouldn't have been insulted because it would have shown I know you're advanced enough to have different religions now? If that was you're point then it's silly. I referenced a guy who tried to come back to life over 4000 years ago rather than the guy who tried to come back to life 2000 years ago. Get over it.

cleared the whole thing up with an apology

I already gave my reason why I disregarded your apology when you asked the question the first time.

albeit one I feel strongly about

Yes, it should be obvious this is something I care about or I wouldn't have spent so much time trying to get you to understand.

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com

McGiver

05-30-2004, 10:21 AM

Closed

boyzdynasty

05-30-2004, 10:50 AM

hey, don't say anything against our I-love-this-song-thread. It was and still is the biggest thread in this forum. :DLOL: (Took the words right out of my mouth)...okay back to reading the rest of the post...brb

boyzdynasty

05-30-2004, 11:00 AM

i stop reading after page 2...Faffy Vs Pixelwit the hippie was aggravating my teeth....hehe...my wisdom teeth hurt me... i need to get rid off them soooon.

As for the originial topic at hand, I was just curious to see if it was true or not....if it is true, how can someone have that kind of patience to pull a prank that last for 20-years?

McGiver

05-30-2004, 11:11 AM

As for the originial topic at hand, I was just curious to see if it was true or not....if it is true, how can someone have that kind of patience to pull a prank that last for 20-years?
Yeah, kind of strange idea. Normally if I get ideas like that, they are gone when I get dry again.
This prank has a general disadvantage. If you re-appear 20 years later noone will care since many don't know you anymore.

Billy T

05-30-2004, 11:15 AM

noone will care since many don't know you anymore.

no one will care? Ah crap here we go again ;)

McGiver

05-30-2004, 11:32 AM

errrr....oups?
of course I wanted to say many will care :/

stealthelephant

05-30-2004, 12:26 PM

AK is the only celeb that i would believe is still alive - had wondered a couple times in passing if he was, once ages ago, i thought it was on the news that he was alive. after a couple of seconds of thought i scratched my head and was like
"who cares"

;)

farafiro

05-31-2004, 01:45 AM

I won't comment anything but the "liar" thing and the "Jesus" :

I said this only for what's bold in hereOriginally Posted by pixelwit
I believe you'll think twice before doing the same thing again in a different thread (or at least in a thread to which I'm subscribed).not the rest of it, I wasn't so clear, yes
but I think you git what I want now (if not, get back to my prev. post)
--------------------------
I am a kinda eligious, yes
but I don't/didn't get upset when you said this, really
you say what you want, I believe what I want, this is me
---------------------------

one last thing, I know that my english is poor, and I didn't say I am an english man

ok, no more talks
but only if..............
:D

pixelwit

05-31-2004, 03:32 AM

I won't comment anything but the "liar" thing and the "Jesus"

Does this mean you are beginning to come to an agreement with me on all the other points? I hope so.

I still don't understand the "liar" thing then. In an effort to simplify yet again, please just answer with an answer as close to "yes" or "no" as you can muster. Would you post another "Who cares?" comment in a thread which you don't care about?

I know you weren't upset that I didn't mention Jesus, but you do seem to be upset that I mentioned the Pharaohs and the pyramids. I know Egypt has changed a great deal in the past 4000 plus years. I know you don't all ride camels and do that funny "Walk Like an Egyptian" walk. But saying many Egyptians believe in Christianity is a poor example of an advanced society since Christianity has been around for about 2000 years. For the record, if I were an Egyptian, I'd be more proud of the Pyramids than Christianity, that's one of the reasons I used it as an example of someone trying to overcome death.

I hold no prejudice against you for your race (as someone other than you implied), your religion, or your country of origin. I have based all my remarks on the comments you have made here in the forums. As a person who speaks English as a second language, it's your duty to take some extra effort to ensure you write what you mean and read what is written.

I still feel you owe me an apology for getting annoyed with me when all I did was make a suggestion which you now claim to agree with "very much". In the future when you read something that "annoys" you I hope you will seriously consider getting a second opinion before making a comment which creates a problem where there was none.

One more comment for the record: McGiver I like you. Honestly. And joking around with you is fun. But it seems a little odd that you want to close a thread which you helped perpetuate. Now 3, 2, 1... FIGHT! :D

-PiXELWiT
http://www.pixelwit.com