Eye Studio Creative Agency

[EyeStudio]

I would like to hear what you think !
http://www.eyestudio.ro

[mostwanted_dk]

Try learning about html standards and css.

http://w3.org

[msqure_me]

HI
This is mahesh
I need solution on how to call avi or quick time move externaly .I am working on one project in which there is some speach in AVI. I want to includ this. I convert avi in to swf from import option but toload that avi is to heavy ... PL help me out

Mahesh
msqure_me@yahoo.co.in

[EyeStudio]

You should use one of the video streming options that is found in flash mx 2004 pro
Ex: COmponents toolbar chose media playback and convert the avi to flv that is macromedia flash video file and you can stream online !
if you want something else try www.flashkit.com/movies
you can find a lot of tutorialls and fla`s there !
if you just need the sound from a movie fille try to use sound forge and record the sound or adobe premiere and then try to import it in flash `

[cghughes]

You have some bad misspellings on some of the finished sites you have already done. Sometimes some of the buttons on some of the sites have really bad "hit" areas. Also, keep in mind that some people can't run that .exe file you have on your site if they have a mac!

[eyeronik]

Try learning about html standards and css.

http://w3.org

Design wise its a cool site. I dont know why you are saying this? sounds harsh to me. Its better than your design: http://htmldesign.dk/ which is very boring and uninteresting, its hardly a design at all its just a word document really. I prefer designs to documents and usability on the net is messed up with regard to what you can and cant do, according to people like jacob whats-his-name you cant really develop anything new you have to do text links. In that world its like we should of never invented the car and stuck with the horse. Its all wrong if you ask me.

There's nothing wrong with his usability really and sometimes people want to do something interesting where you have to find out how to use it, clicking bland links isnt always what you want to do with portfolios

[til]

that looks great, I love the visual effects that give it perspective, looks professional... well done

[EyeStudio]

Thank You ALL !!

[mostwanted_dk]

Design wise its a cool site. I dont know why you are saying this? sounds harsh to me. Its better than your design: http://htmldesign.dk/ which is very boring and uninteresting, its hardly a design at all its just a word document really. I prefer designs to documents and usability on the net is messed up with regard to what you can and cant do, according to people like jacob whats-his-name you cant really develop anything new you have to do text links. In that world its like we should of never invented the car and stuck with the horse. Its all wrong if you ask me.

There's nothing wrong with his usability really and sometimes people want to do something interesting where you have to find out how to use it, clicking bland links isnt always what you want to do with portfolios

I wasn't being harsh. His website shows up with rendering errors in my browser (Firefox) and that is pretty sad considering how good a quirks mode Gecko employs. If rendering errors aren't part of the design, then I don't know what you consider them.

So actually, I wasn't even referring to the web standards from a usability point of view, because from that point of view Flash-only sites should die a quick death right now. The Flash plugin works like **** on all platforms but Windows, is available in a fairly limited scope, doesn't integrate with browser functions, cannot be unstyled, is only available from one (proprietary) source etc. etc.

But of course I'm sure you're very satisfied on your (I'm guessing) Wintel box thinking what a wonderful world Flash-only sites are in everyone's favourite browser Internet Explorer.

[til]

woah man, slow down a bit. I have firefox too it worked fine. Infact the firefox browser flash plugin is faster than in IE so I don't know what you're on about. It only runs like **** if you smash it to pieces by trying to run some 3D OOP graphic thingy game multiplayer whatever. From that perspective it won't even think about it, I know where you're comming from but my friend..... flash is becoming the norm in websites because it is so much better than a boring static html website. I am converting all my sites to flash, and besides it only runs like **** to a programmer like us and I know a lot of programmers hate it because it really doesn't run well. But from the clients point of view.... you show them a fully animated flash website and they will not even consider the 'old' style html site.


Flash is great...... it presents a new revolution in website technology and it's bound to improve so even people like yourself are happy :)

[mostwanted_dk]

Ok, if Flash is so great for making websites, then I'd like to the Flash site that is able to be cached and searched by google, that is able to be navigated using the browser buttons (actually this is possible using JS, but not at all convenient), that is able to scale properly on different resolutions, that is able to be un-styled or change styles (like font sizes or background for instance), that can be created without using a $699 program only available on two operating systems, that is able to use external image files other than ones in the JPEG format, that is able to be viewed without downloading a separate plugin, that uses a standard and non-closed/restricted format, that integrates properly with server-side programming (as in dynamic sites). I could probably go on, but I won't since my point should be clear by now. FLASH IS NOT IN ANY WAY A GOOD CHOICE FOR MAKING WEBSITES. You also abolish users from your site using browsers without the Flash plugin.

However, web-applications are basically what Flash owns at. That's what Macromedia is improving on with every one of the latest Flash releases (like AS 2.0 in MX 2004). Flash is a much better tool than a JDK and the plugin is much more widely spread than Java is.

[mostwanted_dk]

This is an example of bad html/css:

http://htmldesign.dk/img/screens/bad_html.png

[Dylan Marvin]

Hi.
mostwanted, I pretty much agree with you. HOWEVER, techonolgy follows the demand of the consumer. As the "average" consumer sees and enjoys Flash websites, and as long as clients continue to insist on having Flash sites, I think both Macromedia and the rest (browsers, systems, search engines) will have no choice but to make their crap compatible or find a new technology all together that suits everyone's needs. It might sound impossible, but if Flash won't do the job, something else WILL come along and take it's place. The internet will not remain text and images much longer.
Believe it or not, Google, IE, PC, Mac and the rest do not have the control, consumers do. These providers will deliver what the consumer wants because that's where the money is.

[mostwanted_dk]

Well, in my experience, what consumers want are sites that they can come back to and use every day. They might think "Oooh that Flash site sure is nice, watch out dodge that aeroplane, what's that man saying, don't click the red button", but once they're over that, they discover that although a lot of Flash sites are very inventive in the way they present their content, they really suck in the usability aspect.

And it's not like consumers take out Jacob Nielsen's book and say "why, I give this site a score of 4/10", they simply don't come back again because it's not pleasant for them to use that site. The only people I see who're really exited about Flash sites are the people who make Flash sites themselves. And the future looks bright for real websites with SVG, XHTML 2.0 and CSS 3, so I don't agree with your point of view there also.

[Dylan Marvin]

When you hear bad music, do you blame the instrument? :)

[mostwanted_dk]

No, it's just that I prefer a lengthy concert on a Spanish guitar over one on a flashy synthesizer.

Besides, I think you missed my point. Can you please redirect me to some popular sites (made in Flash) which have lots of daily users?

[Ziddy]

http://htmldog.com

That might help some of you web-design novices.

[craigiedon]

has anyone noticed that this site, the very site that probably taught the majority of people on this board how to use action script isnt made in flash?

[Dylan Marvin]

I'm very new to these forums, but has anyone else noticed all the "experts" with only a single post and no homepage links?

As much as people seem to make it their goal, I don't see a need for a forum built in Flash. No has said Flash is the only ordained way to do things; it's just not the evil some have made it out to be.

I could rant about what I like about Flash and the direction of the internet, but there is no point. What will happen will happen and it will probably be something no one expected anyway. I'm sure there will be a happy medium.
But I will concede this: as long as mom n' pop clients get giddy over seeing their homemade logos zoom in and out and fancy maps to their storefronts, and as long as you have freelancers that have to pay their rent and buy their kids Elmo dolls, you will have Flash sites. I've never built an ALL Flash site, I don't even recommend it for most clients, but I still think as Flash will evolve, and the web will evolve, in a way to make a rich, animated, and entertaining internet, and Flash sites will most likely be a part of that.

[mostwanted_dk]

I'm very new to these forums, but has anyone else noticed all the "experts" with only a single post and no homepage links?

I linked to this thread from another forum I go to ^_^

As much as people seem to make it their goal, I don't see a need for a forum built in Flash. No has said Flash is the only ordained way to do things; it's just not the evil some have made it out to be.

I could rant about what I like about Flash and the direction of the internet, but there is no point. What will happen will happen and it will probably be something no one expected anyway. I'm sure there will be a happy medium.
But I will concede this: as long as mom n' pop clients get giddy over seeing their homemade logos zoom in and out and fancy maps to their storefronts, and as long as you have freelancers that have to pay their rent and buy their kids Elmo dolls, you will have Flash sites. I've never built an ALL Flash site, I don't even recommend it for most clients, but I still think as Flash will evolve, and the web will evolve, in a way to make a rich, animated, and entertaining internet, and Flash sites will most likely be a part of that.

Glad to see we have some common ground ;) I too am a fan of advanced websites and the evolution of the Internet. And I don't for a second doubt that Flash has a future, otherwise I wouldn't be using it to the extent that I do. But websites made in just Flash... it's just stupid...

[Dylan Marvin]

Great... how do you feel about options (click here for HTML, click here for Flash)? Surely they're not hurting anyone!

Actually, my "experts" comment was for those who posted after you.:) I enjoy these polite conflicts, but I cannot stand those drive-by one-off posters (it's like talking to a bumper sticker) they say their crap and usually run off. (Sorry to the originator of this thread, we should have found another playground...)

[til]

lol i thought that flower disalignment was in the design otherwise i would have agreed with you on the CSS scripting point.

All those bad points you made about flash, yeah I could go on about them too but the power it provides to a programmer who knows how to use it well - A flash site really is great.

I still build CSS/HTML/PHP sites, probably more than flash because flash is so hard to get it to do anything advanced - like contacting a mysql database... I have to send it through php scripts which just makes me want to build the site out of php/html/css in the end.

Think about the bad points of all that html/php/css stuff, rapid motion across the screen, movie playback, sound.... etc flash provides all that great interactivity nothing else can.

Think about trying to write a chat system in CSS bleeeeeaaaaaaa yuk! i would love to see you try to make it as good as a flash one. Flash is just so much more practical in that sense, and all that bs about the plugin.... everyone has it unless you get a browser thats dated or doesnt come with the flash plugin (ie firefox) and its not hard to get either. Flash also supports loads of other image type file not just jpg. so get your facts straight...

flash is good and so is CSS/PHP/Whatever but you cant fight them against each other. Its like trying to make pink and yellow work together.

[mostwanted_dk]

Think about trying to write a chat system in CSS bleeeeeaaaaaaa yuk! i would love to see you try to make it as good as a flash one.

I agree. I've actually made a PHP/Flash chat program (http://htmldesign.dk/flash/mwchat/) myself, but would you mind telling me exactly what a chat program has to do with a real web site? It's a web app, not a web site.

Flash also supports loads of other image type file not just jpg. so get your facts straight...

External images...

[mostwanted_dk]

Non-Windows plugin (http://htmldesign.dk/comment.php?id=52)

[EyeStudio]

Stop Fighting all if you want to say something say it about the website that it is bad or good or whatever but don`t fight over whos new and who`s the guru .....