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stephenfinn
08-15-2005, 02:08 PM
hello,

just wondered if anyone knew how this was done.

http://www.stickmanonfire.com/site/

i'm talking specifically about the matchstick menu animations. i presume they're not tweened in flash. they seem really smooth. any ideas?

thanks

Cota
08-15-2005, 04:42 PM
I'd probably say done in flash, but possibly done in after effects. Most of the high end animations are being done in after effects then imported into flash...

psychobolt
08-15-2005, 06:08 PM
where can i find adobe after effects tutorials?

Cota
08-15-2005, 10:14 PM
http://www.creativecow.net/articles/aftereffects.html
http://www.digitaleditor.com/tutorials/beizer.html
http://www.designertoday.com/tabindex-1/tabid-41/DesktopDefault.aspx
http://www.forge.net/tuts.htm

psychobolt
08-16-2005, 02:09 AM
thanks :)

Cota
08-16-2005, 02:14 AM
Also, check out this thread, lots of great links:
http://www.actionscript.org/forums/showthread.php3?t=51199

EDIT: Also, another good After Effects tutorial
http://www.ayatoweb.com/index_e.html

psychobolt
08-17-2005, 04:28 PM
I also heard of a program called Swift3d which can save files into flv.

Cota
08-17-2005, 04:42 PM
Swift3d can do some really neat stuff. But as I remember it did require some understanding of 3D software, etc.

Headshotz
08-23-2005, 07:48 AM
Swift 3d is really easy to learn compared to 3ds Max, Maya or Blender.

Swift 3d can export to .swf or .flv or .fla

stephenfinn
09-03-2005, 01:20 PM
Hello,

"Most of the high end animations are being done in after effects then imported into flash..."

Exactly how would this type of thing be exported from after effects? as a video file of some sort?

What is the basic procedure being used when animating in after effectsand then importing into Flash?

Thanks in advance.

Cota
09-03-2005, 03:56 PM
The are usually exported from After Effects as an .mpeg or .flv file then imported into flash.

Headshotz
09-04-2005, 02:35 AM
Same with swift 3d

Cota
09-04-2005, 02:46 AM
After Effects also gives you more than just 3D. It also gives the ability to create realistic effects like fire, water, etc.

Headshotz
09-04-2005, 02:50 AM
After Effects also gives you more than just 3D. It also gives the ability to create realistic effects like fire, water, etc.

Yeah, AE is amazing. I wish it
came with the creative suite. I
purchased the whole CS2 and I
didn't get one of my favourite
programs. I have to buy it seperately.

Cota
09-04-2005, 03:14 AM
I wish I could just learn to use it. 3 weeks and 4 books later, still clueless.

Headshotz
09-04-2005, 03:19 AM
I downloaded the trial and did some
pretty cool stuff with video.

stephenfinn
09-04-2005, 10:10 AM
do you think that it would be better to export after effects files to .flv format or take them into flash via mpeg or avi?

Cota
09-04-2005, 05:11 PM
That question I'm unsure of. I've never messed with FLV, so I have no idea what the benefits are.

Headshotz
09-05-2005, 06:44 AM
I have a feeling Flash Video was built
to work better with flash, that is what I use
anyway.

stephenfinn
09-05-2005, 11:37 AM
so do you embed the flv into the swf? that is what im curious about. the only time ive ever used flv is to progressively stream an external video file.
to just have an element in a swf (like the navigation for example) run from video i guess you would need to embed it.
also, does after effects export to flv?
thanks

Headshotz
09-06-2005, 06:35 AM
does after effects export to flv?
thanks

Good timing to ask that question, my AE trial just
expired :( I could download it again and check if nobody
here has it...





EDIT: Ah ha, Sounds like Cota has it

Flippie124
09-06-2005, 05:24 PM
Well... I've been experimenting with 3D in flash and swift 3d is cool but it's limited in the way you can build 3d things. You can't use textures or create complicated animations and objects. Swift 3d is good for some simple 3d stuff .. If you want the heavy stuff you need a serious 3D package like 3D MAX or XSI ... The problem with these packages is that you can only export as movie files (avi,mpg,...) or images. So your export won't be in vectors as with Swift3d. But there are some plugins for 3dmax and Xsi which should fix this problem. I'm still seaching for that XSI plugin but can't find it :(

Headshotz
09-07-2005, 07:06 AM
Well... I've been experimenting with 3D in flash and swift 3d is cool but it's limited in the way you can build 3d things. You can't use textures or create complicated animations and objects. Swift 3d is good for some simple 3d stuff .. If you want the heavy stuff you need a serious 3D package like 3D MAX or XSI ... The problem with these packages is that you can only export as movie files (avi,mpg,...) or images. So your export won't be in vectors as with Swift3d. But there are some plugins for 3dmax and Xsi which should fix this problem. I'm still seaching for that XSI plugin but can't find it :(

You can get a swift 3d plugin for 3ds max and lightwave 3d depending on what you use.

Cota
09-07-2005, 07:35 AM
3D max and lightwave both support exporting directly to the SWF format with a plugin. I had the trial version of AE and that expired a long time ago. For some reason, I cant wrap my head around it.

Headshotz
09-08-2005, 07:03 AM
Oh ok, Im to poor to just go and buy 3d software. CS2 and Studio 8 will do it for me this year :D

Cota
09-08-2005, 11:51 AM
I hear you, I have 2 kids, so I'll be lucky if I can afford to buy studio 8...Im still uisng Flash MX, which I won in a design contest, so go figure.

Headshotz
09-09-2005, 09:17 AM
I upgrade, I used a lot of money on CS2. But I can get education discounts through my family (some in Uni :) ), saves me a couple of grand. Thats how I can afford both.

Cota
09-09-2005, 04:38 PM
Maybe I can win the lottery or something, then buy all the software I want.

Headshotz
09-10-2005, 01:57 AM
99% of all people who enter lottery
usually lose 100 times more than they get out.
I dont know where I got those stats from
but I heard them somewhere.