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the hunter
08-25-2005, 01:08 AM
I'm a soldier who lost a leg in Iraq.

I came back home in darkness with so many bandages without anybody noticing us.

I have made a vow to myself to reveal the lies of those who stole my life.

Here is the truth they are trying to conceal from you

As casualties mount in Iraq, so has the monetary cost of the war. The military is now spending more than $5.8 billion each month, top officials told Congress this week.

..

The Army, with about 110,000 soldiers on the ground in Iraq, has a monthly "burn rate" of $4.7 billion.

The Air Force is spending about $800 million monthly.

The Marines, which are spearheading the fighting in Fallujah, had an average monthly war cost of $300 million

The US government uses lots of methods to reduce the number of victims:

Only American soldiers are counted into the statistics, and even in this category they don't give the exact numbers

And what if we knew that the US government gave thousands of non-Americans promises of a citizenship if they fight in Iraq

and what if we knew that The US government uses thousands of American, British, and other bounty killers who work for the "special security companies" for high salaries and the US government isn't responsible for their safety

Number of killed soldiers till now: 9,500

Number of wounded soldiers till now: 24,000

Number of deserters: 8,000

War cost till now:
http://costofwar.com/

Number of bounty killers in Iraq: 27,000

Number of bounty killers killed till now: 16,300

Iraqi daily average attacks: 80-90

And u can get a look on this information yourself using this link:

http://cia.555mb.com/

And here

The Ultimate Deception?
By Jim Lampley
June 18, 2005
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/jim-lampley/the-ultimate-deception_2838.html

Press Reports on U.S. Casualties: About 17,000 Short, UPI Says
By Mark Benjamin, UPI
September 15, 2004
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000630846

20,802 US Soldiers Heavily Wounded By Raed
November 24, 2004
http://raedinthemiddle.blogspot.com/2004/11/20802-us-soldiers-heavily-wounded.html

Their Blood Is In Bush's Hand
(Flash Presentation)
http://www.bushflash.com/ma.html

Murder by Numbers
(Flash Presentation)
http://66.230.230.110/geeklog/public_html/staticpages/index.php?page=20040602204332930

Mapping Death: Iraq War Fatalities: By day: By Country
March 20, 2003 - June 20, 2005
(Flash Presentation)

http://www.obleek.com/iraq/index.html

The Soldier's Heart
PBS Frontline
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/heart/view/

Iraq: The Uncounted
November 21, 2004
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/19/60minutes/main656756.shtml

Stockpiling the Wounded from Iraq
Inside Walter Reed Hospital
By Nicole Colson
June 06, 2005
http://www.counterpunch.org/colson06062005.html

This was a very good read from a year ago.
The warmongers 'love' the troops, until they come home . . . damaged
By Doris H. Colmes
June 29, 2004
http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/12573

http://www.americanprogress.org
http://www.awitness.org/journal/real_iraq_war.html
http://icasualties.org/oif/
http://antiwar.com/casualties/list.php
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
http://www.homelandsecurity.org/resources.asp
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/index.html
http://www.crisispapers.org/topics/iraq.htm
http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaki...84537-4865r.htm

Flash Gordon
08-25-2005, 03:24 AM
your not a soldier, you a left wing liberal nut bag. Stop spamming our forums. At least this needs to be in the general chat, ya stupid liberal hippy.

oldnewbie
08-25-2005, 03:42 AM
your not a soldier, you a left wing liberal nut bag. Stop spamming our forums. At least this needs to be in the general chat, ya stupid liberal hippy.

tol·er·ance
n.
The capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others.

Cota
08-25-2005, 03:44 AM
Thats kind of insulting there hunter. Though its kind of ironic that you spammed us with this antiwar talk, yet your name is "the hunter". Sorry, just something I find funny.

Wino
08-25-2005, 01:00 PM
Never mind.

MichaelxxOA
08-26-2005, 06:04 AM
I think it's funny how many people are offended by this, when it's all real and happening. there's many people in this forum who are not from America, but this is a big deal for us and it should be for you too. We are being put into the worst financial situation our country has ever seen. Our outgoing money is far greater than that of our incoming amount. This war was a necessary war, and I understand that, I just despise the fact that our country is right now being run by a man who will answer every question with something about the war on terrorism. It's like a bad actor reminding us all of his crappy movie from 30 years ago, all we are seeing is the bad and nothing good, no promises have been kept the only thing happening because of this war is death and massive amounts of money being wasted. I have family in Iraq right now, and they will tell you that they'd rather be home but they went there by choice. And even though they went there by choice they hate everything that is happening. I don't know, i'm done going on about this, I just had to say something, anyway I love all of you guys :), take care.

-Michael

Cota
08-26-2005, 06:18 AM
ok, politics and flash dont mix........... :D

MichaelxxOA
08-26-2005, 06:45 AM
haha no they do not, that's why this is in the general forum :), jk

-Michael

Wino
08-26-2005, 07:28 AM
This entire thread should be deleted. It has no place on a non-political forum.

Mods, where are you?

Flash-a-Maniac
08-26-2005, 07:46 AM
i'm with u Wino
the ENTIRE THREAD SHOULD BE deleted

oldnewbie
08-26-2005, 12:33 PM
I don't think it should be deleted... Maybe moved to the General Chat forum...

Simply send a PM to CyanBlue, with this thread's ID... And he'll do it!

Flash-a-Maniac
08-26-2005, 03:18 PM
this may be rude but this is the truuuuth.
Why is such a political kind of thing situated in a Flash based thing?
i want an appropriate answer from the starter of this thread :the hunter
sorry if i was too rude.

Wino
08-26-2005, 03:46 PM
It was rude for the Hunter to post it in the first place, F-a-M, so why bother being perceived as unsolicitous to such an obvious and blatant LIE.

Yes, as in no name and no attribution for the effing liar who claims to have lost a leg.

Any American soldier would proudly proclaim himself as such and give his name and unit and the details of his loss, then provide his reasons from his own words, not a laundry list of anti-American, anti-conservative moonbat ar$ehole web sites.

Without the personal attribution, and without returning, I label this poster a coward, a liar, and anti-western (pick your free country).

He can visit my website: http://www.go_eff_yourself.com

I'm not sorry about this post.

Again, I call for this thread to be deleted, or else I'll see it as license to start abortion threads, religion threads, and any other provocative thread subject I can come up with. After all, if Anti-war threads are OK, then where do you draw the line. There should be at least a modicum of relation to Flash and/or actionscript/programming to be posted here.

DELETE THIS THREAD

Cota
08-26-2005, 05:52 PM
Wino, I understand your frustration, but remember, there are idiots everywhere. Do what I do, have fun with it, then let it go. We get this sort of thing from time to time. Its amusing, but no need to take it too personally. This guy probably did the same thing in a hundred different forums. Ignore the fool and flash your ass off... :p

Wino
08-26-2005, 11:35 PM
I appreciate your approach, Cota, but I happen to be from a family of veterans, and one myself. Were this @ss to show up on my front lawn, he'd find out what a real soldier, sailor, airman, or marine would do to him for this kind of slanderous portrayal.

I am serious. I might be banned, but I'll start posting abortion, politics, religion, and any other kind of inflammatory thread I can think of until this abomination is deleted.

It shouldn't be allowed on a site like this. There are plenty of sites where this would be appropriate, and debatable.


BUT NOT HERE


I'm not try to tell the mods how to do there jobs, but I would ask them, if they aren't going to delete it, where do they draw the line on off-topic $hyte?

Be ready for subjects like "Abortion is Murder" and "Bush is Hitler" and "Hitlery Rodless Clit-on is a Dyke"

After all, if this crap is allowed to stand from a one-time poster, those with more posts should get more latitude.

Again, I say, Mods, where are you? I am personally offended that this lying coward is allowed to say slanderous things without censure or the chance to personally confront this liar.

Of course, since I'm from Texas, one of us wouldn't leave that encounter.

Cota
08-27-2005, 12:25 AM
I too come from a military family. Army and Marines. I never served myself. But all in all, forget this fool. Not worth your time or the aggrivation.

piratefish
08-27-2005, 02:40 AM
you a left wing liberal nut bag.

Isn't that a lyric from one of JibJab's movies?

Flash Gordon
08-27-2005, 02:47 AM
thought i was being original

Cota
08-27-2005, 03:38 AM
Not original, but we still love you :p

mmm..pi..3.14..
08-27-2005, 08:14 AM
Cindy Sheehan is that you??

Get out of the forums and go back to Crawford you crazy lady :p

billingsgate
08-29-2005, 05:39 AM
I agree with the Hunter, and I think Cindy Sheehan should become President, and that George Bush Jr will go down in history as the most evil, corrupt and inept president the USA ever had. He makes me ashamed to be an American.

But I also think this thread doesn't belong anywhere in any of these forums. Let's keep politics and religion completely out, so we can all remain friends linked by a passion for Flash. I hope the moderators delete this thread.

HiRo
08-29-2005, 08:34 AM
I agree with the Hunter, and I think Cindy Sheehan should become President, and that George Bush Jr will go down in history as the most evil, corrupt and inept president the USA ever had. He makes me ashamed to be an American.

But I also think this thread doesn't belong anywhere in any of these forums. Let's keep politics and religion completely out, so we can all remain friends linked by a passion for Flash. I hope the moderators delete this thread.

..:: LoL ::.. :D

mitr
08-29-2005, 05:24 PM
Inappropriate thread -
Absolutely, yes

Truth or Lie
God knows

Who's that "the Hunter"?
God knows

What does he intend to?
God knows

But, 'Wino' isn't there something called as 'freedom of expression' that our Democratic countries provide? Isn't it what for military(you) fighting there in Iraq(else where)? It's a Human Right. Unless someone is abusing/violating someone's liberty/right, we are not supposed to act in such a way. We act in such a way, then there's a word that is popular now in several other forums called - 'terrorism'. The need of the hour is 'patience' and a 'wise-act'.

Anyway, I feel that this thread should be at least closed down, with here.

Cota
08-29-2005, 05:46 PM
ok ok , no more political talk. This is how things start then turn ugly. Everyone play nice and no fighting.

Flash Gordon
08-29-2005, 10:17 PM
tension breaker:My future ex-wife (http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&safe=off&q=angelina+jolie&spell=1)

finchou
08-29-2005, 10:24 PM
weapon of mass distraction?

Cota
08-30-2005, 12:32 AM
Yeah.....she is a weapon of mass destruction..

CyanBlue
08-30-2005, 12:56 PM
Geez... I've got tons of PMs asking for this thread to be closed/deleted...
I'm going to close the thread and put this into the Detention room and delete it in 7 days...
Please let me know if you have any problem with that... :)