Participating

[Ricod]

Exactly who are volunteering here ? Just to see who's available for what, so Jesse and 20 ton Squirrel know who to draw from. :)

[red penguin]

I'm in....

[20 Ton Squirrel]

I'd like to suggest that any volunteers list their skills and what they'd like to volunteer for.

For instance, to help with the engine one should have a good grasp of C and object-oriented programming. I'm an amateur coder, so my techniques will seem a bit hackish and kludgey but I get the job done (and well, I might add).

[red penguin]

Right...
1. Need I say ActionScripting? In the past two months, I have created, been creating, a standalone app for use as an xml based test....The engine itself isn't all that impressive, but what is, is the fact that I have created 12 different options for the test. Just to name a few....

review q & a - user can review what he answerd vs correct responses
timer - shows total time at end or not/limits test time
show hints - pics, text
randomize the answer array - or not
user prefs - user can modify from a list of 5 fonts, any colors for text, BG, buttons, border, etc
loads images with each question and info page...3 per question

Learned a lot about product development, coding...duh...structure, communication...To date the largest project I've had the privvy of doing EVERYTHING myself...
2. Am a huge testing freak...If I could have any job, I think it might be testing apps...As a "competent" as coder, I really get into the debugging phase...
3. Other than that, I ain't got much! Sorry folks, but I will have to say I am a fast learner and willing to do whatever it takes to get something done....Like I've said before, something need getting done, I'll figure the damn thing out...

red

[Ricod]

Great Ide 20TS !

I guess I'm volunteering for the clientside. I have experience with GUI's, yer basic scripting (although a bit weak ... :( ). The rest isn't really useful here (unless we're gonna simulate human anatomy here :) ).

Also, although I can't help with the engine itself, I would like to monitor its progress for educational reasons (sure sounds better than "I'm a curious fella" :) )

* one note - I'm not much of a debugger ! I tend to dislike a project if I'm stuck on the same part for too long ! *

[vilehelm]

Originally posted by red penguin
2. Am a huge testing freak...If I could have any job, I think it might be testing apps...As a "competent" as coder, I really get into the debugging phase...


Pengie, you are a developer's wet dream. A person who LOVES to test. never thought i'd see the day...

Well i'm all front end "ahem". Design and usability are my two big areas of interest.

I understand project management very well as i work in a small team environment every day.

So i can help structure wise and workflow wise at the begining if need be. Keep all the ducks in a row etc...

After the app is built i can help with the creative integration and can REALLY help with help docs etc... i'm good with words and images and explaining things.

Programming wise I'm a freakin nightmare (and not in a good way). I can usually get things to happen but it's ugly. however i'm a wiz at creating and understanding usable mechanisms and dynamics. The games that i make, i think, are really good and eploit the limitations of flash well.

basically i'm good for ideas and advice...and donuts.

and enthusiasm
:D

[farafiro]

Why should we volunteer In the first place ?

[vilehelm]

Why not - got something better to do?

[Ricod]

Well, its best to keep the actual deciders small. And if yer not volunteering, but have an interest, how else would the project leaders know u're interested in participating ? Or that yer up to the designated 'task' ?

[farafiro]

Originally posted by vilehelm
Why not - got something better to do?

Yep, playing with flash while havin' a sandwish and coke :D

Originally posted by Ricod
Well, its best to keep the actual deciders small. And if yer not volunteering, but have an interest, how else would the project leaders know u're interested in participating ? Or that yer up to the designated 'task' ?

OKEY, I'M INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[vilehelm]

Yep, playing with flash while havin' a sandwish and cocke

Whew! so many jokes to make there, it's too easy, in the spirit of cooperation i'll shut my trap.

Everyone, rush over to the two cents thread and shout out your ideas.

[red penguin]

Yeah, I couldn't keep myself contained but in the spirit and all, I shall withstand the temptation....

Two cents?

[vilehelm]

I set up an "Input Thread" for ideas called

"Your Two Cents Goes Here".

Oh i have another skill, I'm a killer icon maker (came in ninth at the iconfactory's pixelpalooza, i was robbed). If we have smilies etc. I'd love love love to help on that. (that is my dream job)

[Jungl3M4n]

hehe, I'm not a good programmer, well some of you know that maybe I'm one of those ones that bother a lot with Questions, but too I can say that would be nice to be part of the beta test team, I have allways dream with that about be a beta tester, but never had the oportunitie.

Let me know if it is possible.

Greets,

[20 Ton Squirrel]

Vile, I think that your experience and expertise would be of great benifit in the design of the client. If you aren't heading that up then you should at least be one of the almighty consulting influences.

I know Farafiro was joking, but I gotta say this to anyone who really wonders that:

If you have to ask then ya got no business being on here.

I'm giving up ALOT of my coveted trade secrets here as far as this engine goes... I'm contributing in this way for a couple reasons:


I want to and you can't stop me. Nyah-nyah.
I want to help drum up support and popularity of this - my most favorite internet haunt.
I need to challenge myself.
I want to put subliminal messages in the client that influence users to put gouda cheese in their ears.


*steps off his Official Soap Box... officially*

Right. Back to my job before they can me.

[vilehelm]

Originally posted by 20 Ton Squirrel
Vile, I think that your experience and expertise would be of great benifit in the design of the client. If you aren't heading that up then you should at least be one of the almighty consulting influences.


I have no problem with either I just didn't want to be bossy (which i can be on occasion). :mad:

[20 Ton Squirrel]

Hey, you may be bossy but I'm arrogant and controlling. I see great things in store for this project! WOOT!

[red penguin]

Originally posted by vilehelm

I have no problem with either I just didn't want to be bossy (which i can be on occasion). :mad:
Nothing wrong with that...I think we actually need that for guidance and direction and every little helps....Someone has to do it and it sounds as if you've got the experience...I'm all for it...

Well said, Squirrel, on points 2 and 3...As for 4, can we change that to camembert?

[farafiro]

Hold on guys
we are all here to cooperate together ..............
To benefit and to be benefited also
As I thought when I came here

ain't it so or what do u think friends ??? :confused: :confused:

[20 Ton Squirrel]

Of course that's the goal, comrade. We're being silly (for the most part). Don't worry, we play nice (for the most part).

I think that the thread needs to be set back on track. Volunteers signing up and stuff. So far we've got:

20 Ton Squirrel, Rico, Vilehelm, Red Penguin, JungleMan, and Farafiro. Didn't we have more people pledging support on the original thread, or is it just me?

So far most everyone has expressed interest in the client design, which is fine, but are there any takers for the chat engine other than m'self? Anyone? Anyone?

[red penguin]

Hey, I'd love to help out on that aspect but I'm not worthy!!

Damn....foiled again...

[Tink]

DA BLEEDA is in

like ol jungleman i aint a programmer. i been with flash for bout 6 months now but would really like to get involved and help out.

maybe testing or design

can i be in?

BLEEDA

[vilehelm]

I think for some things it will run smoother with smaller teams like we have right now(or in Squirrel's case on his own).

Hey, we can always hit the flashkit forum if we get lost. :p

[Billy T]

Like most here I am not a programmer but am happy to help however I can...

design, testing etc

I'm on a mac - will this engine be cross-platform?

[vilehelm]

However I do have access to some hard core C dudes (nerds). If anything gets dicey i can always plug them for advice.

Will Jesse be helping with the XML aspect of it? Are we going to use XML in anyway?

[pinkaboo]

Love to be involved, just not sure how I can help (yet) your tech talk keeps confounding me somewhat and I must say I am waiting to see how the organisation of it develops, sounds like a logistical nightmare to me. Though by the seems certain peeps are already storming their way through that mire!
Been keeping an eye on the threads though and it sounds fantastic, count me in, if I can contribute I'll certainly have a go. Guess design or testing would be my best bets?

:0)

K

[kingarturo]

Uhmmmm.......I 'll bring coffee and donuts.

Peace

[red penguin]

Originally posted by pinkaboo
your tech talk keeps confounding me somewhat
yeah, me too, but I have faith in those guys! Again, communication and not being afraid to ask questions/admit to probs will be KEY!

Key... I say!

[vilehelm]

Originally posted by red penguin

yeah, me too, but I have faith in those guys! Again, communication and not being afraid to ask questions/admit to probs will be KEY!

Key... I say!

hehe...i was thinking driving to work today pengie that your gonna have one of the harder parts of this whole thing.

Your stuck between me and the squirrel!

:p

[20 Ton Squirrel]

Stuck between 20 Tons of Fro and Squirrel. Gotta fear it. Don't worry, Pengie, I'm easy to work with. *grin*

[zoomfreddy]

hi there!!!

Im IN for the Mac tests and stuff!!!!...

:cool:

[20 Ton Squirrel]

Check the thread titled The PLAN (http://www.actionscripts.org/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=8726) and PM the Director of the team you wish to help out. Give a brief detail of your skills and what ye'd like to do... maybe an e-mail address... a million dollars in the fridge with a padlock... oh yeah, and a can of salted cashews.

[red penguin]

MUUUAAAHHHHHAAAHHHHHAAAAAA....

I HAVE NO FEAR....
*picks up beating stick and chants to the sky*

[Jesse]

I'm in, in case I wasn't already :) I'm an alright ActionScripter ;) . I know some ANSI C as well.

[red penguin]

He's just being modest...

[Rupert]

I'll help out if I can - as long as you people promise to play nice.

<irrelevantFact> I just read that cashews are a direct relative of Poison Ivy and that the cashew is the only part of the plant that isn't poisoness to humans. </irrelevantFact>

Squirrels on the other hand are probably resistant to everything...

[IFZen]

Well if you still need some other fingers to type code, I might be abble to help you. I code AS and PHP and several other stuffs for... 19 years now (don't call me old branch, I'll bite).

IFZen

[red penguin]

Okay guys, you should get a copy of the engine and get on. Familiarize yourselves with it and all. It's good stuff! Promise!

[20 Ton Squirrel]

Get yerself a copy of the CLIENT to connect to the engine... *grin* For those who are interested, I can provide a link to a better client than GMUD. It's called MUSHclient... I've used it for two years now and it's a great tool. It's shareware, so you'll have to put up with an annoying splash screen, but it's worth it for the features. But then again... if you aren't coding on there you probably don't need something like that. Ah well, you decide.

http://www.gammon.com.au/

Guy who made it is an Austrailian. Go fig. You crazy Aussies.

I've noticed PixelWit signed in. Good show! C'mon down, folks, and enjoy the show. See if there is something you can contribute to the project! Explore some, there's plenty to do on there.

Welcome aboard Rupert and IFzen. I've been hoping you two would get involved. Don't worry, we may be asinine but we play nice.

Anyone else? Sound off!

[Billy T]

Originally posted by 20 Ton Squirrel
Get yerself a copy of the CLIENT to connect to the engine...

what sort of client?

Where do I connect to?

Thanks

[20 Ton Squirrel]

Look HERE (http://www.actionscript.org/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=8716) for details on how to connect and interact...

[Billy T]

I couldnt connect - kept saying

<billyt' is not a valid Internet mail username

do you need the ` or ' or anything?

thanks

[20 Ton Squirrel]

To create you need to provide a single-word name, a single-word password, and a valid email address...

create BillyT unguessablepassword billyT@someplace.com

Try that and see where it gets ya. If no one is on, just explore around. Log in between 5AM to 5PM CST if you wanna catch me. I might be around if I have a moment. *grin*

[Billy T]

I must be a dumbass

I was using

create <BillyT> <pass> etc etc

working now

thanks :)

[Rupert]

Don't feel too bad I know one other dumb Aussie who was doing the same thing!

[pinkaboo]

heh heh, I did the same, but at least I got there in the end without telling the world!

oh pants, that blew it, hot damn!

k

[Rupert]

Ha!

Now wait just a minute .. is that a SWF footer I see there Pink?
Did you slip Jesse and Strok $50 so that you still got to have one?

Rupert

[20 Ton Squirrel]

The SWF footers weren't taken away, it's an option now. *grin* I just opted to take mine out until I could make a better one.

[red penguin]

That's not the info contained in this post! (http://www.actionscript.org/forums/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=8853)

So what's the lowdown here...

[20 Ton Squirrel]

Oh, my bad... they probably turned 'em back on after I took down my hawg of a footer! HEHEHEH!

[Jesse]

SWF footers are still possible but I'm not going to say how coz we discourage them now ;)

[IFZen]

I'm all surprised cause I registered my footer when it 'was' possible and I never do anything to 'hack' it. How can it be I never lose it ?

[Billy T]

Originally posted by Jesse
SWF footers are still possible but I'm not going to say how coz we discourage them now ;)

would you like me to take mine off?

or to put it another way - would you like to see a grown man cry?:(

:p

[Jesse]

Nah we're just trying to stop everyone using them because it makes for big issues with load time and scrolling for some lower-end users.

[zoomfreddy]

i made the same mistake with the "create"..., but now...jejeje, i look around the whole building, nice offices there...may i have one?...yeah, shure, keep dreaming.....

:cool:

[20 Ton Squirrel]

Yer office is set up Zoom. Enjoy.

[Billy T]

20T

that cartoon thang is damn impressive

lotta work has obviously gone into it...

well done

[zoomfreddy]

good cartoon stuff!!!

:)...my office next to Jesse's office...nice!!!

but i didn't find how to make the description...

:cool:

[red penguin]

When you are in your office, just type...
@desc zoomfreddy's office
I assume that's the name of your office...
It will then switch 'modes' and it'll be waiting for your input. Type away (Hit return when you want and it will give you a newline...) and then when you are finished hit return one more time. You'll see as per usual an empty field. Hit a "." (period, full-stop...) and return and it'll bring you back to "chat" mode...Then type...
look zoomfreddy's office....You should then see your newly described office.

You can do the same for yourself!

Squirrel, been told we now have doors, is that true?

[zoomfreddy]

thanks Red..., already tried that...for me works, but for my office...
"Zoomfreddy does not have an office." is what i get.

[red penguin]

Uh, I'm at a loss...

I thought you said you had one? Right next to Jesse's? Go in there and it should work...unless I am mistaken...

I should be there this afternoon about 3ish...Paris Time...

[zoomfreddy]

yeah, i tried again and....the same....

the path:

walkway
hallway
staircase
west
north
north
north
west

that is... if i keep the track fine...but anyway, when you get in front of Jesse's office, turn to the west, and there is my "indescriptable" office :)
...and now it's time to sleep...

[vilehelm]

Did you actually go into your office?

[zoomfreddy]

yes, vilehelm, i get in and saw the description 20 Ton put there, but can't make changes...
:cool:

[pinkaboo]

Hi, I had that problem when I kept trying @desc pinkaboo's office, (pinkaboo does not have an office - grr grr stamp feet - YES I DO!!) but then I tried @desc office (while I was inside the office of course) and it did work.
also to add to Pengie's instructions if you change your mind and want to exit @desc without making changes or you need to exit quickly from that input mode simply type @abort


maybe that'll work for you too?

K

[20 Ton Squirrel]

Okay, Zoomfreddy, your problem is solved. I forgot to change ownership of the office over to you, so that's why it would've defied your attempts to describe it.

As for the problem Pink described, I remembered WHY that's happening. The code that is used to recognize and interpret commands has something called Environment Matching.

This means that if you have fifty cell phones in a room, you can say get 32nd phone and it will know EXACTLY what you are talking about.

It also assumes that if you do something like @desc pinkaboo's office that the person with that 's is carrying the object you're trying to describe.

For instance, if Jesse was carrying the colorful koosh on his person, I could type @describe jesse's koosh and the engine would know what I'm talking about. Make sense?

[zoomfreddy]

Thanks 20 ton!!! i'll try it later:)
:cool:

[zoomfreddy]

and now i have a "descriptable" office!!!!...and described, of course!!!

Thanks 20 Ton!!!

[pinkaboo]

Just reread this thread and spotted this:

Vilehelm wrote:
Oh i have another skill, I'm a killer icon maker (came in ninth at the iconfactory's pixelpalooza, i was robbed). If we have smilies etc. I'd love love love to help on that. (that is my dream job)

Such a boast without a followup? Come on Vile, spill. I need proof here - show us your etchings! *wink* :)

[vilehelm]

Unfortunately you Godless heathens, sorry "P C U S E R S", won't be able to partake in my whacky icon visions.

However I have included a screenshot of a sample.

I wasn't able to get it together for pixelpalooza this year, too busy, consarnit. I have a great hillbilly set that I'm working on currentlly.

Let me know if any enlightened folk (i.e. M A C U S E R S) want a copy of the icons.

[pinkaboo]

Unfortunately you Godless heathens, sorry "P C U S E R S", won't be able to partake in my whacky icon visions.

Right! That's it...
FIGHT...
outside NOW!
.o0 (I can still kick you know!)

*pinK ponders* actually Vile.. you have a very strong case for throwing Mr PC out the window there! Never has a MAC been so tempting! :)

K

[pinkaboo]

ps did I mention they are GREAT?!!

:D

pinK likes Trans Am best at the moment

[red penguin]

Festus rules...

Yeah...makes me wanna run out and get me a mac...

[pinkaboo]

*PinK looks for Festus*
Hey, Festus reminds me of an icon I did for my work's chat room!
Waddaya reckon? It's the teeth I think! :)

[Billy T]

I have a mac - please send em to me - billy@tableau.com.au

Thanks Vile

[zoomfreddy]

Hi ther Vile!!! ...i want the icons too!!!

:cool:

[20 Ton Squirrel]

What is this soul toast? I WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!

Oh, and the icons look cool. Werd.