Chicken vs. Egg, chapter II

kaska · 05-03-2001, 04:16 AM

It's important to have a coherent design in media available to a majority of people, but who gets your attention first? When you're putting together a design concept for a site, do you start with the basic HTML (which is able to be viewed by almost everybody?), and then add the flash, or do your design ideas reflect more the higher denominator, revolving around the Flash possibilities, and then re-writing the site for those "poor" people that are working from places that don't have enough bandwidth to support Flash sites? As I'm likely to be doing sites that will be viewed by people as diverse as Americans on T1 lines to Polish with a very slow dial-up connection on an already over-saturated network, I'm trying to figure out where I should concentrate my time...

Any ideas are much appreciated,

-Kaska

Jesse · 05-03-2001, 01:17 PM

I haven't designed a commercial site in some time but I think the idea of ballance is still applicable. Purely HTML or Flash sites are both redundant. Flash is still not dynamic enough and HTML is boring without copious amounts of graphics. I think to strike a balance between fancy Flash and practicle HTML is the idea. In general I would use Flash for navigation purposes but HTML for content I think... but of course it depends on the project we're talking about...

Cheers

Jesse

crabyard · 05-04-2001, 12:40 PM

As Karl Marx said, every problem has its difference.
agree with Jesse.

but as to myself (and also our designgroup), I created a pure HTML site with Dreamweaver(layers&table) and Fireworks(rollovers) 1.5 years ago. Since taking Flash, I've been not launching DW or FW.
oh my......

And what do you mean by saying "flash is not yet dynamic enough", jesse?

Jesse · 05-04-2001, 01:25 PM

Flash's failure to fully comply with the progress of the market towards database driven sites, and yet also allow graphical implimentation. For example, the inability to load dynamically generated or selected images into Flash, which I hope to see in Flash 6.

Don't get me wrong, it's very close, but I'm a hard judge of great products.

Cheers

Jesse

crabyard · 05-04-2001, 02:35 PM

ya, you are right. flash can do nothing about dynamic graphics. but flash5 has been enabled to part with XML, it's been a great improvement. ahhh..... got another thing to learn, huh.....

Jesse · 05-04-2001, 02:41 PM

heheh I meant to learn XML. I don't know anything about it atm. I don't have time though, too busy teaching other people Flash !

Soon they will all surpass me and I will come crawling back to them for hlep hehe

Cheers

Jesse

05-03-2001, 01:17 PM	#2
Jesse Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Australia Posts: 8,612	I haven't designed a commercial site in some time but I think the idea of ballance is still applicable. Purely HTML or Flash sites are both redundant. Flash is still not dynamic enough and HTML is boring without copious amounts of graphics. I think to strike a balance between fancy Flash and practicle HTML is the idea. In general I would use Flash for navigation purposes but HTML for content I think... but of course it depends on the project we're talking about... Cheers Jesse __________________ Cheers Jesse Stratford ActionScript.org Cofounder Email: presented in this way to stop spam-bots: My email is composed of my first name (jesse) followed by my last name (stratford) followed by @ followed by actionscript.org Please don't email or PM me Flash questions, that's what the Forums are for! Please don't rely on me reading my PMs either. Email me about important stuff.

05-04-2001, 01:25 PM	#4
Jesse Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Australia Posts: 8,612	Flash's failure to fully comply with the progress of the market towards database driven sites, and yet also allow graphical implimentation. For example, the inability to load dynamically generated or selected images into Flash, which I hope to see in Flash 6. Don't get me wrong, it's very close, but I'm a hard judge of great products. Cheers Jesse __________________ Cheers Jesse Stratford ActionScript.org Cofounder Email: presented in this way to stop spam-bots: My email is composed of my first name (jesse) followed by my last name (stratford) followed by @ followed by actionscript.org Please don't email or PM me Flash questions, that's what the Forums are for! Please don't rely on me reading my PMs either. Email me about important stuff.

05-04-2001, 02:41 PM	#6
Jesse Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Australia Posts: 8,612	heheh I meant to learn XML. I don't know anything about it atm. I don't have time though, too busy teaching other people Flash ! Soon they will all surpass me and I will come crawling back to them for hlep hehe Cheers Jesse __________________ Cheers Jesse Stratford ActionScript.org Cofounder Email: presented in this way to stop spam-bots: My email is composed of my first name (jesse) followed by my last name (stratford) followed by @ followed by actionscript.org Please don't email or PM me Flash questions, that's what the Forums are for! Please don't rely on me reading my PMs either. Email me about important stuff.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes	Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode	Rate This Thread:

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Ask Dr. [Darth] Lank	Darth_Lank	General Chat	279	09-26-2007 04:45 PM
Rolling Egg	d9085	Animation and Effects	2	03-27-2004 07:59 PM
Easter egg	FiZzIk	ActionScript 1.0 (and below)	19	05-16-2002 11:57 PM
when I uncomment a piece of code it stops working	megabyte	ActionScript 1.0 (and below)	1	08-31-2001 04:01 AM

05-03-2001, 04:16 AM	#1
kaska Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 11	It's important to have a coherent design in media available to a majority of people, but who gets your attention first? When you're putting together a design concept for a site, do you start with the basic HTML (which is able to be viewed by almost everybody?), and then add the flash, or do your design ideas reflect more the higher denominator, revolving around the Flash possibilities, and then re-writing the site for those "poor" people that are working from places that don't have enough bandwidth to support Flash sites? As I'm likely to be doing sites that will be viewed by people as diverse as Americans on T1 lines to Polish with a very slow dial-up connection on an already over-saturated network, I'm trying to figure out where I should concentrate my time... Any ideas are much appreciated, -Kaska


<a href='http://d1.openx.org/ck.php?n=ac86e9f0&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://d1.openx.org/avw.php?zoneid=36053&source=_blank&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=ac86e9f0' border='0' alt='' /></a>

05-04-2001, 12:40 PM	#3
crabyard Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: CHINA Posts: 14	As Karl Marx said, every problem has its difference. agree with Jesse. but as to myself (and also our designgroup), I created a pure HTML site with Dreamweaver(layers&table) and Fireworks(rollovers) 1.5 years ago. Since taking Flash, I've been not launching DW or FW. oh my...... And what do you mean by saying "flash is not yet dynamic enough", jesse?

05-04-2001, 02:35 PM	#5
crabyard Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: CHINA Posts: 14	ya, you are right. flash can do nothing about dynamic graphics. but flash5 has been enabled to part with XML, it's been a great improvement. ahhh..... got another thing to learn, huh.....