04-27-2004, 08:06 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Newbie Question
I've been reading tutorials and studying scripts for multiuser functions in Flash, trying to learn. After awhile now, I feel that I've got the basics down at a rudimentary level and want to try to work with it.
However I don't really understand one very important thing. Setting up a server..I've downloaded a ton of different free xml socket testing programs and basic chat programs to try to learn the basics, but I don't understand how to get the server program running on my remote host.
Can anyone help me here? I'm sure its pretty basic, I've just never had to run a script on a remote server before so I don't really know how. I have the code and compiled servers for these scripts, but how do I activate them on my host computer? I can upload them, but it obviously takes doing more than just that. (The host computer is not in my possesion, obviously. I only have access to it through FTP)
Any help would be appreciated.
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04-28-2004, 12:02 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Las Vegas
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XML socket servers run on different ports than standard HTTP. The scripts you are testing should say which port is necessary in their documentation or comments. Find which port you need, and contact your host to see if they support your needs, and how they go about allowing you to connect your xml socket server.
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04-28-2004, 12:04 AM
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Master of Nothing
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Location: San Diego, CA
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(The host computer is not in my possesion, obviously. I only have access to it through FTP)
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This will be your first hurdle, you will need telnet access at the very least to be able to start and stop your socket server, your host WILL NOT be in the business of starting it and restarting it for you. Its very hard to successfully deploy a socket server in a shared hosting env.
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04-28-2004, 02:25 AM
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Well, after talking to the cutomer support Yes, that IS my issue...There is no telnet access, and they don't support the type of scripts I need.
At least I'm not a TOTAL moron
So, now the question is, does anyone know of a good host I could use that does? I should be getting a refund at least.
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04-28-2004, 09:39 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Centreville, VA
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What about this one??? We made this site and the price is set pretty reasonably and you do get the SSH/SFTP(telnet/FTP) access... As long as you don't run the socket server all day long, you should be fine with that host... Of course, it will be totally different story if you run the socket server 24/7 no matter what host you use...
https://www.steadyhosting.net/index.html
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04-28-2004, 10:07 AM
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Master of Nothing
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: San Diego, CA
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Not exactly true. What good is a socket server if it can only be run at certian times.
The thing no shared host is going to allow socket servers to be run on nonstandard ports, period!
You need a dedicated machine with root access.
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04-29-2004, 07:44 AM
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Oh... Yeah... That's totally true...
I just said that because not many hosts allow you to run the socket server if you are on the shared hosting... That's all... (Not sure about the nonstandard ports stuff...)
A dedicated machine with root access??? Sounds very delicious...
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04-29-2004, 12:11 PM
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Master of Nothing
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: San Diego, CA
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You can get them fairly cheap these days. Some are shared servers but partitioned off with mini OSs and root access.
Here is one for 69.95 a month
http://www.interland.com/shared/vps/...th=snavvpsroot
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04-30-2004, 07:27 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Centreville, VA
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WoW... Not bad... The prices were at least $99.99 and up when I was browsing for the host... It's gotten down some... That's good... That's good...
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